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Sophia Clark

UCC1 filling rejection - debtor name formatting issue

Got another UCC1 filling rejection from the SOS portal yesterday and I'm getting frustrated. This is the third time they've bounced it back for 'debtor name inconsistency' but I'm copying the name exactly from the incorporation documents. The business is 'Jackson & Associates Professional Services LLC' but the system keeps flagging it. I've tried variations like 'Jackson and Associates Professional Services LLC' and 'Jackson & Associates Professional Services, LLC' but nothing works. Has anyone dealt with this kind of formatting nightmare? I'm worried about the lien priority date slipping while I keep resubmitting. The collateral is equipment financing for about $280K so getting this perfected is critical.

I've seen this exact issue with ampersands in business names. The SOS systems are super picky about punctuation. Try using 'Jackson and Associates Professional Services LLC' without any commas or special characters. Also double-check that the Secretary of State database shows the exact same formatting - sometimes the incorporation docs don't match what's actually on file.

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Sophia Clark

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Thanks, I did try the 'and' version but maybe I had extra spaces or something. I'll check the SOS business entity search again to see exactly how they have it formatted in their system.

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Madison Allen

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This is so frustrating when you're trying to perfect a lien and the system keeps rejecting over tiny formatting differences. I had similar issues with a company that had 'Inc.' vs 'Incorporated' mismatches.

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Joshua Wood

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Before you keep guessing at the formatting, try Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your incorporation documents and it will cross-check against the SOS database formatting requirements. I was stuck in the same loop with a client's UCC1 filling and this tool caught that there was an extra period after 'LLC' that wasn't showing up in the portal preview. Saved me from another rejection.

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Sophia Clark

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Interesting, I hadn't heard of that tool. Does it actually connect to the SOS databases to verify the exact formatting they expect?

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Joshua Wood

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Yeah, you just upload your PDFs and it runs an automated check against the official records. Much faster than manually comparing everything and missing tiny differences like spaces or punctuation.

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Justin Evans

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That sounds too good to be true but if it works it would save so much time. I've had clients get really annoyed when their UCC1 filling keeps getting rejected over name formatting issues.

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Emily Parker

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The ampersand issue is really common. Most SOS systems prefer 'and' spelled out rather than the & symbol. Also check if there are any trailing spaces after the LLC - that's another common rejection reason that's hard to spot.

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Sophia Clark

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Good point about trailing spaces. The portal interface doesn't always make it obvious when there are extra characters that shouldn't be there.

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Ezra Collins

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I always copy the name from the SOS entity search results and paste it directly into the UCC1 form. That way I know the formatting matches exactly what they have on file.

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This is exactly why I hate electronic filing systems!! They're so picky about every little detail but then don't give you clear error messages about what's actually wrong. At least with paper filings you could call and ask someone to clarify the issue.

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I get the frustration but electronic filing is still faster overall once you know the quirks. Paper UCC1s could take weeks to process and you'd have no idea if there were issues until you got them back in the mail.

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Maybe faster but definitely more confusing when you're dealing with formatting rejections that don't make sense. At least with paper you could include a note explaining any unusual circumstances.

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Have you tried calling the SOS filing division directly? Sometimes they can look at your rejected filing and tell you exactly what needs to be changed. It's worth a phone call before you submit again and risk another rejection.

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Sophia Clark

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I should try that. I was hesitant to call because I figured they'd just tell me to read the filing instructions, but maybe they can be more specific about the name formatting issue.

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Zara Perez

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The phone support is actually pretty helpful for UCC1 filling issues. They deal with debtor name problems all the time and can usually spot the formatting issue right away.

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Daniel Rogers

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Just make sure you have your rejection notice handy when you call. They'll want to reference the specific error code or message you received.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Is this for a new filing or a continuation? If it's a new UCC1 filling, you might want to double-check that the debtor entity is still active and hasn't had any name changes since your loan documents were signed. Sometimes businesses change their legal names but don't update their loan agreements.

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Sophia Clark

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It's a new filing for equipment financing. The incorporation was just last year so there shouldn't be any name changes, but I'll verify the entity is still active and hasn't had any amendments.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Good idea to check. Even recently incorporated entities sometimes file amendments to correct minor issues with their original filing.

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Ella Russell

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Another thing to check - are you using the correct entity type designation? Sometimes the system expects 'Limited Liability Company' instead of 'LLC' or vice versa. The exact entity type formatting can vary between states.

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Sophia Clark

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I've been using 'LLC' since that's what's on the incorporation documents, but maybe the SOS system expects it spelled out. I'll try that variation next.

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Mohammed Khan

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This is another reason why I use Certana.ai's verification tool - it catches these entity designation mismatches before you submit. I had a similar issue where the system wanted 'Limited Liability Company' but all my documents showed 'LLC'.

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Gavin King

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I feel your pain on this. Had a UCC1 filling rejected 4 times because of a period after 'Inc' that wasn't supposed to be there. The system error messages are so vague that you end up playing guessing games with the formatting.

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Sophia Clark

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Exactly! The error message just says 'debtor name inconsistency' but doesn't specify what part of the name is wrong or how to fix it.

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Gavin King

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Right, and then you're stuck trying different variations and hoping one works. It's especially stressful when you have a client waiting for their lien to be perfected.

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Nathan Kim

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Quick question - are you including the state of incorporation in the debtor name field? Some systems want just the business name while others expect the full legal name with state designation. That could be causing the mismatch.

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Sophia Clark

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I've just been using the business name without the state. Should I be including something like 'a Delaware LLC' at the end?

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Nathan Kim

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It depends on your state's requirements. Check the UCC1 filling instructions for your jurisdiction - they usually specify whether to include the state of organization in the debtor name field.

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Have you tried the exact name search function in the SOS database? Sometimes that will show you exactly how the name should be formatted for UCC1 filling purposes. It's usually more reliable than just looking at the incorporation documents.

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Sophia Clark

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I'll try that. I was just using the regular business entity search but maybe there's a more specific search function for UCC purposes.

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Lucas Turner

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The exact name search is definitely the way to go. I've found that sometimes the business entity search results don't show the exact formatting that the UCC system expects.

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Kai Rivera

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This is why I always recommend using automated verification tools like Certana.ai before submitting. It eliminates all this guesswork and tells you exactly what formatting issues need to be fixed.

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Anna Stewart

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Update us when you get it resolved! These debtor name formatting issues are so common that it would be helpful to know what finally worked. I'm sure other people will run into the same problem with business names that include ampersands.

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Sophia Clark

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Will do! I'm going to try the suggestions about using 'and' instead of '&' and double-checking the exact SOS database formatting. Hopefully one of those approaches works.

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Layla Sanders

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Yeah please post an update. I have a client with a similar business name structure and I'm dreading having to deal with the same formatting issues.

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