How to do a UCC 11 search - state database showing no results
Been trying to run a UCC 11 search on our borrower before we move forward with this equipment loan but the state database keeps coming back empty even though I know there should be filings. I've tried variations of the company name (ABC Manufacturing LLC vs ABC Manufacturing, LLC vs ABC Mfg LLC) but nothing's pulling up. The loan officer swears there are existing liens on this equipment from their previous lender. Am I missing something obvious here? This is holding up a $180K deal and I'm getting pressure from upstairs to either find these filings or move forward. Anyone know if there are tricks to searching the UCC database that I might be missing?
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Ryan Kim
UCC searches can be tricky especially with business names. First thing - are you searching in the right state? The debtor's location of incorporation matters, not where the collateral is located. Also try searching without any punctuation at all - some databases are super picky about commas and periods.
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Daniela Rossi
•Yeah I'm in the right state, they're incorporated here. Let me try dropping all the punctuation and see what happens.
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Zoe Walker
•This is exactly why I always do searches both ways - with and without punctuation. Saved me so many headaches over the years.
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Elijah Brown
Have you tried searching by the exact legal name from their articles of incorporation? Sometimes the DBA name is totally different from what's actually on file. Also check if they've had any name changes recently - those can mess up searches big time.
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Daniela Rossi
•Good point about the legal name. I was using what's on their loan application but that might not match their charter exactly.
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Maria Gonzalez
•Name changes are the worst! I had a borrower who changed their name 3 times in 2 years and we missed liens because of it.
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Natalie Chen
This exact situation happened to me last month. Turns out I was overthinking it - there actually weren't any UCC filings, the loan officer was confusing it with a different borrower. But before I figured that out, I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the company's charter documents and it will cross-check against UCC databases to make sure you're searching with the exact right entity name. It caught a debtor name mismatch I would have missed manually.
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Santiago Martinez
•Never heard of Certana but that sounds helpful. How accurate is it compared to doing manual searches?
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Natalie Chen
•Pretty solid in my experience. It's saved me from a couple filing mistakes where the debtor name on my UCC-1 didn't exactly match their charter. Just upload the PDFs and it flags any inconsistencies.
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Samantha Johnson
•Interesting, might have to check that out. Manual document comparison is such a pain.
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Nick Kravitz
Are you doing broad searches or exact matches? Sometimes you need to use wildcards or partial name searches to catch variations. Also double-check the filing date ranges - if these are older liens they might be in a different system or archived.
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Daniela Rossi
•I was doing exact matches mostly. Let me try some wildcard searches and see if that turns up anything.
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Hannah White
•Wildcard searches are your friend! I always start broad and narrow down from there.
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Michael Green
This is going to sound obvious but are you sure you're in the UCC search section and not somewhere else? I've accidentally searched business registrations instead of UCC filings before and felt like an idiot.
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Daniela Rossi
•Haha yeah I double-checked that. Definitely in the UCC section of the SOS website.
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Mateo Silva
•Been there! The state websites are not always the most user-friendly.
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Victoria Jones
Check if the state database is down or having issues. Our state system goes down for maintenance pretty regularly and sometimes they don't post notices. Also try searching during off-peak hours - some systems are slower during business hours.
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Cameron Black
•Good call on the maintenance. I've wasted hours trying to search during system updates.
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Jessica Nguyen
•Our state posts maintenance schedules but they're not always accurate. Very frustrating when you're on a deadline.
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Isaiah Thompson
Sometimes there's a lag between when filings are submitted and when they show up in the search database. If these are recent filings they might not be indexed yet. Also worth checking if there are any terminated or lapsed filings that might not show up in active searches.
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Daniela Rossi
•That's a good point about the lag time. These could be recent filings that haven't updated yet.
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Ruby Garcia
•Our state usually updates within 24 hours but I've seen delays during busy periods.
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Alexander Evans
UPDATE: Found the issue! It was the punctuation problem mentioned earlier. The filings were under 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' (no comma) but I was searching for 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with comma). There are actually 3 active UCC-1s on file. Thanks for the help everyone, especially the tip about trying different name variations.
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Ryan Kim
•Glad you found them! Punctuation gets everyone at some point.
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Evelyn Martinez
•This is exactly why I hate UCC searches. Such a pain when something so small throws off the whole search.
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Benjamin Carter
•Good catch! Always worth trying multiple variations of the debtor name.
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Maya Lewis
For future searches, I'd recommend keeping a checklist of different name variations to try. I learned this the hard way after missing filings on a big deal. Now I always search: 1) Exact name from charter, 2) Name without punctuation, 3) Name with different abbreviations (LLC vs L.L.C.), 4) Any DBAs they use.
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Isaac Wright
•That's a great system. I should probably make a checklist too instead of just winging it every time.
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Lucy Taylor
•Checklists are lifesavers. I have one for UCC searches and another for filing UCC-1s.
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Connor Murphy
Since you found the existing filings, make sure to check their continuation dates too. You don't want to perfect your lien only to have a senior lien lapse and mess up your priority position.
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Daniela Rossi
•Good reminder! I'll check the filing dates and make sure they're still current.
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KhalilStar
•Yeah definitely check those dates. I've seen deals go sideways because someone missed a lapsed continuation.
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Amelia Dietrich
•This is where that Certana tool might be useful again - it can probably flag any continuation issues automatically.
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Kaiya Rivera
Just to add one more tip - some states have separate databases for different types of UCC filings. Make sure you're not just searching UCC-1s but also amendments, continuations, and terminations. Sometimes the full picture isn't visible if you're only looking at one filing type.
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Katherine Ziminski
•That's true. Our state has tabs for different filing types and I always forget to check the amendments section.
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Noah Irving
•Amendments are crucial! I've seen cases where the original UCC-1 looked fine but an amendment changed everything.
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