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Aisha Ali

How do I find my UCC filing - can't locate it anywhere

I'm trying to track down a UCC filing that should exist but I can't seem to find it anywhere. My lender says they filed a UCC-1 against my equipment about 8 months ago but when I search the state database nothing comes up. I've tried searching by my business name, my personal name, and even the loan number but getting zero results. This is making me nervous because we're trying to refinance and the new lender is asking for proof of the existing lien. Anyone know how do I find my UCC filing when the obvious searches aren't working? Am I missing something basic here or could there be a real problem with the original filing?

Ethan Moore

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First thing to check is which state they filed in - equipment UCCs sometimes get filed in the state where the equipment is located rather than where your business is incorporated. Also try searching variations of your business name, sometimes filings use abbreviated versions or slightly different spellings.

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Aisha Ali

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Good point about the state - we moved some equipment from Ohio to Kentucky last year so maybe they filed in the wrong state? I only checked Kentucky so far.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Yeah equipment location can be tricky, especially if it moved after the loan. Check both states to be sure.

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StarSurfer

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DEBTOR NAME MISMATCH is probably your issue here. I've seen this so many times - lender files under a slightly different business name than what you're searching for. Try searching just part of your name or common abbreviations. Also check if they used your DBA vs your legal entity name.

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Aisha Ali

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Oh wow didn't think of that. We do business as 'Smith Equipment LLC' but our legal name is 'Smith Equipment Solutions LLC' - could that be it?

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StarSurfer

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Absolutely! That's exactly the kind of discrepancy that causes these search problems. Try both versions.

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Carmen Reyes

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This happens ALL the time with DBAs vs legal names. Most people don't realize the filing has to match exactly what's on your articles of incorporation.

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Andre Moreau

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Had this exact same issue last month - spent hours searching and nothing. Turns out I was making myself crazy over nothing. I ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool and just uploaded my loan documents along with what I thought might be the UCC-1. It instantly cross-checked everything and found the filing number I needed. Saved me probably 6 more hours of searching different name variations.

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Aisha Ali

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Never heard of that service - does it actually find filings or just verify documents you already have?

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Andre Moreau

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It verifies document consistency mainly, but in my case it pulled the filing number from my loan docs that I had missed, then I could search by that number directly.

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Check the filing date too... sometimes there's a delay between when the lender says they filed and when it actually shows up in the system. 8 months should be plenty of time though.

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Aisha Ali

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Yeah 8 months is way more than enough, that's not the issue here.

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Ethan Moore

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Also worth mentioning - some states have different search interfaces and some are just terrible. Kentucky's system has gotten better but it used to miss filings all the time. Have you tried calling the Secretary of State office directly?

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Aisha Ali

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Haven't called yet but might have to. Really hoping to avoid sitting on hold for an hour though.

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Their phone system is actually not too bad now, usually get through in 10-15 minutes. They can search by partial names and other criteria you can't do online.

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Yuki Nakamura

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One more thing to try - search by your lender's name as the secured party. Sometimes that's easier to find than the debtor name, especially if there were spelling issues.

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Aisha Ali

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Smart idea, will try that next. The lender name should be more standardized than our business name.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Exactly, and lenders usually file under their exact legal entity name consistently across all their loans.

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Mei Chen

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This worked for me when I had a similar issue - found my filing immediately when I searched by the bank name instead of my own.

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CosmicCadet

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Could be a rejected filing that never got corrected? If there was a problem with the original UCC-1 submission (wrong address, name issues, missing info) it might have been rejected and your lender never refiled it properly.

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Aisha Ali

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Oh no, that would be really bad for my refinancing. How would I even know if that happened?

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CosmicCadet

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The lender should have received a rejection notice, but sometimes those get lost or ignored. You'd need to ask them directly for proof of the filing.

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Carmen Reyes

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This is exactly why I always request a copy of the filed UCC-1 from my lenders within 30 days. Too many things can go wrong.

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Liam O'Connor

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ugh the search systems are so inconsistent between states. Some require exact matches, others are more forgiving. Really frustrating when you're trying to track down your own filings.

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Amara Adeyemi

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Tell me about it. I've had to search in 3 different states for various equipment over the years and they all work differently.

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Try searching without any punctuation or special characters in your business name. Some systems strip those out automatically but others don't, so 'Smith Equipment, LLC' vs 'Smith Equipment LLC' might give different results.

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Aisha Ali

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Good tip, I'll try that variation too. Getting a whole list of things to check now.

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Yeah it's annoying how picky these search systems can be about exact formatting.

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Just went through something similar and ended up using Certana.ai to verify all my loan documents were consistent. Turned out my lender had filed the UCC under a slightly different version of my business name. The tool caught the discrepancy immediately when I uploaded my charter documents and the loan paperwork together.

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Aisha Ali

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That's the second mention of that service - might be worth trying if I can't figure this out through normal searches.

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It's pretty straightforward, just upload your PDFs and it checks for inconsistencies between documents. Found my issue in like 2 minutes.

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Dylan Wright

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Last resort would be to have your lender provide you with the filing number directly. They should have that information in their loan file and then you can search by the specific UCC number instead of names.

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Aisha Ali

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Yeah if all else fails I'll have to contact them directly. Just wanted to try finding it myself first since they're not always the most responsive.

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NebulaKnight

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Most lenders are required to provide that info to borrowers anyway, so don't feel bad about asking for it.

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Zoe Kyriakidou

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Another thing to check - make sure you're searching in the correct UCC database. Some states have separate databases for different types of filings or different time periods. Also, if your business has multiple locations or subsidiaries, the lender might have filed under a parent company name or with a different address than you expect. I'd recommend creating a list of every possible name variation (legal name, DBA, abbreviated versions, with/without punctuation) and systematically searching each one in both your state and any states where you have equipment or operations.

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