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Miguel Silva

FTX bankruptcy UCC-1 filings - debtor name consistency issues

Has anyone dealt with UCC filings related to FTX bankruptcy proceedings? We're trying to file continuation statements but keep running into debtor name mismatches. The original UCC-1 was filed under 'FTX Trading Ltd.' but some related filings show 'FTX Trading Limited' and others just 'FTX Trading'. Secretary of State keeps rejecting our UCC-3 continuations saying the debtor names don't match exactly. This is holding up our secured creditor status verification. Anyone know which exact debtor name format the bankruptcy court is using for these filings? The inconsistency is creating a nightmare for our lien perfection audit.

Zainab Ismail

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Bankruptcy UCC filings are always messy because different jurisdictions use different name formats. Check the original UCC-1 filing number and pull the exact debtor name from that record. That's what your continuation needs to match exactly, not what other people are filing.

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This is exactly right. The continuation has to match the original UCC-1 debtor name character for character. Period vs no period, Ltd vs Limited, it all matters.

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Yara Nassar

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But what if the original filing has the wrong name? We've seen cases where the bankruptcy filing uses one name and the UCC uses another.

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I had similar issues with another bankruptcy case last year. The trick is to search the UCC database using partial names to find all related filings, then see which debtor name format appears most consistently. Usually there's one 'master' filing that sets the standard.

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Miguel Silva

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Good idea but I've already tried that. Found like 6 different variations of the FTX name across different filings. Some have 'Ltd.' others 'Limited' and some just end with 'Trading'. It's chaos.

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Zainab Ismail

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That's why you need to stick with whatever's on YOUR original UCC-1. Don't worry about what others filed incorrectly.

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Recently discovered Certana.ai's document verification tool and it's been a lifesaver for exactly this type of issue. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the continuation UCC-3 and it instantly flags any debtor name inconsistencies. Saves hours of manual checking and catches mistakes before filing.

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Paolo Ricci

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Yeah, super simple. Upload both documents and it cross-checks debtor names, filing numbers, everything. Highlights any mismatches immediately so you can fix them before the SOS rejects your filing.

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Amina Toure

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Sounds like it would have saved me a lot of headaches on my last amendment filing. Filed three times before getting the debtor name exactly right.

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THE WHOLE UCC SYSTEM IS BROKEN!!! Why can't they just match on filing numbers instead of requiring exact name matches? One typo and your lien is worthless. Ridiculous.

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I get the frustration but the name matching rules exist for good reasons. Protects against fraudulent filings and ensures proper notice to debtors.

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Yeah well it also screws over legitimate secured creditors when the system is this picky about punctuation and abbreviations.

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Check the Delaware Secretary of State database if FTX entities were incorporated there. Sometimes the corporate charter shows the exact legal name format that should be used in UCC filings. That's usually the safest approach for debtor name consistency.

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Miguel Silva

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Good point. I think most of the FTX entities were Delaware corps. Will check their Articles of Incorporation for the exact legal names.

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Javier Torres

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Delaware Division of Corporations online search is pretty good for this. Just search 'FTX' and you'll see all the exact entity names on file.

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Emma Davis

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Wait are you filing continuations or amendments? Continuations just extend the original filing, amendments change the terms. If you're trying to fix a debtor name issue you need a UCC-3 amendment not continuation.

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Miguel Silva

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We're filing continuations to extend the 5-year effectiveness period. The debtor names on our original UCC-1s are correct, but the SOS system keeps rejecting because it can't match the format.

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Emma Davis

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Oh okay that makes sense. Yeah continuation statements are super picky about exact name matches. You can't even fix a typo with a continuation, has to be identical.

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CosmicCaptain

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Had this exact problem with Lehman Brothers filings back in 2008. Ended up having to file UCC-3 amendments first to correct the debtor names, then file separate continuations. Double the filing fees but better than losing perfection.

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Malik Johnson

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That's expensive but probably the safest approach. Better to pay extra fees than have your security interest lapse because of name technicalities.

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Paolo Ricci

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How long did that whole process take? We're getting close to our 5-year deadline.

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CosmicCaptain

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About 3-4 weeks total. Amendment took a week to process, then continuation was quick once the name was corrected.

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Another option is to call the Secretary of State UCC division directly. Sometimes they can tell you exactly why the filing was rejected and what name format they're expecting. Saved me on a tricky filing last month.

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Good suggestion. The UCC staff are usually pretty helpful if you can get them on the phone.

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Miguel Silva

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I'll try that. Worth a shot before paying for amendment filings.

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Update: tried that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier and it immediately caught three different debtor name variations in our FTX filings. Would have taken hours to spot manually. Definitely recommend for anyone dealing with multiple related UCC filings.

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Yara Nassar

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Did it help you figure out which name format to use for the continuation?

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It showed me exactly which original UCC-1 had which debtor name format, so I could match the continuation perfectly. No more guessing.

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Javier Torres

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Final thought - make sure you're checking the right jurisdiction too. FTX had entities filed in multiple states and each might have slightly different name formats even for the same company.

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Miguel Silva

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Great point. We have filings in NY, Delaware, and California. Need to check each state separately.

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Each state's UCC database is separate so you'll need to verify debtor names in each one individually.

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California's system is particularly picky about debtor names. Had three rejections there before getting it exactly right.

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