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Thanks everyone for all the detailed advice! I'm going to try the automated verification approach with Certana.ai first since it seems like it handles all the name variations automatically. If that doesn't work, I'll go back to manual searching with the tips about using our exact legal entity name and checking both Florida and Georgia databases. Really appreciate all the help - UCC searches are trickier than I expected but now I have a clear plan forward.

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Welcome to the community! This thread is a perfect example of how tricky UCC searches can be, especially in Florida. The automated approach seems to be the most reliable based on what others have shared here. If you do end up doing manual searches, definitely pay attention to the exact legal entity name format - that seems to be the biggest issue people run into. Good luck with your search!

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As someone new to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need to verify a UCC filing for our business loan, but I'm in Texas. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like each state's system has its quirks. The advice about searching with the exact legal entity name (including all the LLC/Inc designations) seems crucial. I'm definitely going to try the automated verification approach first since manually searching through all the possible name variations sounds like it could take forever. Has anyone had experience with Texas UCC searches specifically? Are they as finicky as Florida's system?

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Welcome! Texas UCC searches are generally more user-friendly than Florida's system, but you'll still run into the same name variation issues. Texas allows partial name searches which helps, but I'd still recommend starting with the automated verification approach since it's faster and catches things you might miss. The exact legal entity name rule applies everywhere - if your company is "ABC Services LLC" make sure you search for that exact format, not "ABC Services" or "ABC Services L.L.C.". Each state's Secretary of State website has slightly different search interfaces, but the underlying name matching problems are universal. Good luck with your search!

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Look, I know you need cash today but please don't let desperation drive you into a bad deal. I've seen too many trucking companies get destroyed by predatory factoring arrangements. If this company really doesn't require UCCs, there's probably a reason - and it's usually not good for you. Take the weekend to explore your options rather than jumping into something that could make your situation worse.

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Exactly. One missed payroll is recoverable. A predatory factoring arrangement can kill your business permanently by damaging customer relationships and creating debt cycles.

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This is the voice of experience talking. Desperation decisions in business financing almost always backfire. Take time to verify everything properly.

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I understand you're in a tough spot, but as someone who's worked in commercial lending for 8 years, I have to echo what others are saying - legitimate factoring without UCC filings is extremely rare and usually comes with major red flags. Even "notification only" structures typically involve some form of security interest documentation. Before you make any decisions, I'd strongly recommend: 1) Get everything in writing about their "no UCC" claim, 2) Have a lawyer review any agreement (even if it costs a few hundred dollars), and 3) Verify the company's licensing and Better Business Bureau rating. Your trucking business is too valuable to risk on a potentially predatory lender. Have you considered reaching out to other trucking companies in your area? Sometimes they can recommend legitimate factors they've worked with, or might even be willing to help with short-term equipment sharing to reduce your immediate cash needs.

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This is excellent advice, especially about getting the "no UCC" claim in writing. If they're truly legitimate, they shouldn't have any problem documenting exactly how their legal structure works without UCCs. The networking suggestion is spot-on too - other trucking companies have been through similar cash flow crunches and their factor recommendations could save you from a costly mistake. Have you checked if your industry association has any emergency lending resources or factor referral programs?

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This whole situation sucks but unfortunately you're going to need professional help to resolve it properly. Document everything, get certified bank records, verify the secured party is legitimate, and consult with a commercial litigation attorney. Don't try to handle this yourself - too much at stake financially.

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Look for attorneys who specifically handle secured transactions or UCC disputes. Many commercial litigators don't deal with Article 9 issues regularly. Bar association referral services can usually point you to specialists.

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Also consider attorneys who handle fraud cases if you believe this was intentionally fraudulent rather than just an error. The remedies can be different depending on whether it was mistake or misconduct.

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I'd recommend starting with a formal records request to the secured party demanding they provide you with copies of the loan agreement, promissory note, and any other documentation they claim supports the UCC filing. Send this certified mail with return receipt requested. If they can't produce legitimate documentation (which sounds likely given your situation), that strengthens your position significantly. Also file a complaint with your state's Attorney General office if you suspect fraud - they often have commercial fraud units that can investigate these situations and sometimes get faster resolution than private litigation.

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This is excellent advice! The formal records request is a smart first step that can expose whether they actually have supporting documentation. If they can't produce a legitimate loan agreement or promissory note, that's pretty damning evidence that the UCC filing is bogus. The AG complaint is also a good parallel track since some states have gotten more aggressive about prosecuting UCC fraud. Just make sure to keep copies of everything and maintain a detailed timeline of all communications with the secured party.

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Update - I ended up filing the continuation yesterday using that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned. It caught two issues I would have missed: the debtor name had a comma in the original that I was leaving out, and the filing number had a zero that looked like an O. The verification process literally took 30 seconds after uploading both documents. Filing went through without any rejections. Thanks everyone for the guidance on the georgia ucc statute timing - knowing I had the 6-month window gave me confidence to get this done properly.

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Great outcome. Properly filed continuations give such peace of mind, especially with big dollar amounts involved.

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Nice to hear a success story. The verification tool sounds like it's worth checking out for anyone doing regular UCC work.

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This is a great thread with solid advice. Just want to emphasize one more practical point about Georgia UCC continuations - always keep a copy of your filed UCC-3 continuation and the confirmation from the Secretary of State. I've had clients years later need to prove a continuation was properly filed, and having that documentation saved them from potential disputes. Also, if you're managing multiple UCC filings, consider setting up calendar reminders 8-9 months before expiration so you have plenty of time to handle any complications. The georgia ucc statute gives you the 6-month window, but business reality means starting the process early is always wise.

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Excellent advice about documentation and early reminders! I'm new to UCC filings and this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. Question - when you set those calendar reminders 8-9 months out, do you also set intermediate reminders closer to the deadline as backup? I'm worried about relying on just one reminder given how critical these deadlines are.

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One more vote for using that Certana document checker thing - I tried it after seeing it mentioned here and it actually caught an issue where my security agreement said 'manufacturing equipment' but my UCC-1 said 'machinery and equipment.' Technically probably fine but better to be consistent.

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Yeah, it's surprisingly thorough. Definitely worth the peace of mind to make sure everything aligns properly.

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Good catch. Consistency between documents is always preferable even when it's not legally required.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! This has been incredibly helpful. Based on what I'm hearing, it sounds like I should go with something like "all manufacturing equipment, CNC machines, fabrication equipment, tools, and related machinery used in debtor's manufacturing operations, whether now owned or hereafter acquired." That gives me the specificity I need while still being broad enough to cover future acquisitions without constant amendments. I'm also definitely going to check out that Certana tool several of you mentioned - consistency between the security agreement and UCC-1 filing seems like a smart way to avoid potential issues down the road. Really appreciate the practical guidance from everyone who's been through similar deals!

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