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Mei Liu

FAFSA dilemma: Chapter 35 VA benefits vs. out-of-state scholarship - can we keep both?

My daughter just got accepted to her dream school in Colorado (we're from Texas), and we're trying to figure out a complicated financial aid situation. She qualifies for Chapter 35 VA benefits through my late husband's service, which typically grants her in-state tuition rates. However, she also received a prestigious $18,500 scholarship specifically for out-of-state students. The financial aid office is telling us she can't have both - either she uses the Chapter 35 benefits and gets in-state tuition but loses the scholarship, OR keeps the scholarship but pays out-of-state rates without the VA benefit. This seems contradictory since both are meant to help veterans' families. Has anyone navigated this situation before? Will this affect her FAFSA award? I'm confused about which option would actually give us more aid in the end. The SAI on her FAFSA was 8650 if that matters. Any advice from someone who's dealt with VA benefits and scholarships together would be amazing!

this is just how it works with out of state scholarships. if u dont qualify as out of state anymore you cant get it. my brother had the same issue but with a different military benefit when he went to school in arizona. we're from nevada. it actually worked out better financially for him to decline the military benefit and take the scholarship - do the math carefully!

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Mei Liu

Thanks for the insight! Did your brother calculate this based just on tuition or did he factor in housing too? I'm trying to figure out the total cost picture here.

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I work in financial aid at a university that handles a lot of VA benefits, and this is unfortunately a common issue with Chapter 35 and similar benefits. The key is to calculate the TOTAL financial impact of both scenarios: Option 1: Chapter 35 + in-state tuition - VA Chapter 35 currently pays about $1,401 per month for full-time students (for up to 36 months) - Plus you'd get in-state tuition rates - Your FAFSA aid package would remain the same in either scenario Option 2: Decline Chapter 35 + $18,500 scholarship + out-of-state tuition - Keep the $18,500 scholarship - Pay out-of-state tuition rates (often 2-3x higher than in-state) - No monthly VA stipend Calculate both scenarios with the exact numbers from your school. Some families find the monthly Chapter 35 stipend is more valuable than the scholarship, while others find the reverse. It's truly case-by-case.

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Mei Liu

Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown! I didn't realize the Chapter 35 monthly payment had increased. Do you know if we can switch approaches after the first semester if we find one isn't working as well financially?

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Have you talked to the school's Veterans Services office specifically? Sometimes the regular financial aid advisors don't understand all the VA benefit nuances. When my son was in a similar situation (different VA benefit though), the Veterans Services coordinator found a scholarship specifically for veterans' dependents that COULD be combined with his VA benefits. Worth asking!

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Mei Liu

That's a great suggestion! I've only spoken with general financial aid staff. I'll definitely reach out to their Veterans Services office tomorrow.

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you should ask them if they'll convert the out-of-state scholarship to a merit scholarship of a smaller amount. my nieces school did this for her and she got to keep her VA benefits too. worth asking!!

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I was in this EXACT situation with my Chapter 35 benefits!!! The school would NOT budge about keeping both. SO FRUSTRATING!!! In the end, I did the math and the Chapter 35 monthly payments were worth WAY more over the course of 4 years than that out-of-state scholarship would have been. Plus the VA benefit is GUARANTEED for 36 months as long as you maintain enrollment, but scholarships can sometimes have GPA requirements that make them risky if you have a bad semester. Make sure you know EXACTLY what the out-of-state tuition difference is at your specific school. Some states have a $15k difference while others might have a $30k difference between in-state and out-of-state!

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Mei Liu

Thanks for sharing your experience! The out-of-state difference at this school is about $22k per year, so that's definitely a big factor to consider against the scholarship amount.

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Have you tried calling the Federal Student Aid helpline? I spent WEEKS trying to get through to ask about how my son's VA benefits would affect his FAFSA calculation. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual person at FSA in about 10 minutes. They explained exactly how VA benefits impact the aid calculation. Saved me so much frustration! There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ

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does this really work?? ive been trying to talk to someone about my verification issue for like a month

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Yes! It seriously saved me hours of frustration. My son's financial aid was on hold because they needed clarification on how his VA benefits should be reported, and we couldn't get through using the regular number.

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YOUR SCHOOL IS LYING TO YOU!!!!!! Federal law (Section 702 of the Choice Act) REQUIRES schools to give in-state tuition to Chapter 35 eligible students!!! They CANNOT legally deny you the in-state rate if you qualify for Chapter 35!!! Show them the law and DEMAND they honor both the scholarship AND your rightful in-state tuition!!!!

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I need to respectfully correct this misunderstanding. Section 702 of the Choice Act doesn't apply to Chapter 35 (DEA) benefits - it applies to Post-9/11 GI Bill and Montgomery GI Bill benefits. Chapter 35 dependents often do receive in-state tuition, but it's typically school/state policy rather than federal requirement. The issue here isn't about eligibility for in-state tuition - it's about whether a scholarship specifically designated for out-of-state students can be used by someone paying in-state rates.

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oh... well i was told differently by someone at the VA. sorry for the confusion!!

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I suggest getting everything in writing from the financial aid office. When my daughter had VA benefits, the verbal information we got from one advisor contradicted what another told us. Having documentation of their policy will be important. Also, ask if they offer any comparable scholarships for in-state students with your daughter's qualifications that could replace the out-of-state one if you go the Chapter 35 route.

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Mei Liu

That's smart. I'll definitely request their policy in writing. The inconsistent information has been frustrating.

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Did the school tell you exactly how much the out-of-state tuition is compared to in-state? Have you calculated how much total money you'd get from Chapter 35 over 4 years? These numbers would help figure out which is actually better. Also don't forget to think about summer terms if she might take classes then.

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Mei Liu

In-state is about $14,200/year and out-of-state is around $36,500/year. So the difference is significant. I'm trying to calculate the total Chapter 35 benefit now, which looks to be around $12,600 per academic year if I'm doing the math right.

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my cousin had this happen and they let her defer the scholarship for a year while she worked stuff out with the VA... maybe ask if that's an option while u figure out the best path?

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Based on the numbers you've provided, it looks like the Chapter 35 route might be more beneficial financially: Option 1: Chapter 35 + in-state tuition - Tuition: $14,200/year - Chapter 35 benefit: ~$12,600/year - Net cost: $1,600/year Option 2: Out-of-state scholarship - Tuition: $36,500/year - Scholarship: $18,500/year - Net cost: $18,000/year Unless I'm missing something, Option 1 appears to save you significantly more. However, remember that other factors like housing, meal plans, and additional scholarships could change this equation. Also, you'll need to verify exactly how the SAI from your FAFSA translates to actual aid at this specific institution under both scenarios.

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Mei Liu

Thank you so much for running these numbers! This really helps clarify things. I think we're leaning toward the Chapter 35 route based on this. I'll double-check with the school about any other grants from FAFSA that might be affected.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Book Allowance that comes with Chapter 35 benefits! It's about $1,200 per academic year, which can help offset some of those textbook costs. Also, some schools have work-study programs specifically for veterans' dependents that could provide additional income while she's in school. Another consideration - if your daughter is planning to pursue graduate school later, she might want to save some of her Chapter 35 benefits for that since it's a 36-month total entitlement that can be used for both undergrad and graduate programs. Just something to factor into your long-term planning! The math definitely seems to favor the Chapter 35 route based on what others have calculated, but make sure to ask the school about any additional fees that might apply differently to in-state vs out-of-state students.

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That's a great point about the book allowance! I hadn't factored that in yet. And you're right about potentially saving some benefits for graduate school - my daughter is interested in pursuing a master's degree eventually. Do you know if there are any restrictions on how the 36 months can be split between undergrad and grad programs?

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I'm new to navigating VA benefits but I've been following this thread closely since I'm in a similar situation with my son who qualifies for Chapter 35 benefits. Based on all the great advice here, it seems like getting everything in writing from both the financial aid office AND the Veterans Services office is crucial. One question I haven't seen asked yet - does the school have any flexibility on the scholarship terms? Like could they potentially redesignate it as a merit scholarship instead of specifically an "out-of-state" scholarship? Some schools are willing to work with families on these technical distinctions, especially when VA benefits are involved. Also, @Mei Liu, have you checked if Colorado has any additional state-specific benefits for veterans' dependents that might stack with the federal Chapter 35 benefits? Some states offer supplemental programs that could help close any remaining cost gaps.

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Those are really excellent questions! I haven't thought to ask about redesignating the scholarship - that could be a game-changer if they're willing to be flexible on the terminology. And you're absolutely right about checking for Colorado-specific benefits. I should research what additional state programs might be available for veterans' dependents. Thanks for bringing up these angles that I hadn't considered yet!

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I went through this exact same dilemma with my daughter last year! We were torn between her Chapter 35 benefits and a $20K out-of-state scholarship at a school in Oregon. After weeks of back-and-forth with financial aid, we discovered a few things that might help: 1. Ask about "stackable" scholarships - some schools have smaller merit-based awards that CAN be combined with VA benefits 2. Request a detailed cost breakdown for BOTH scenarios including fees, housing, meal plans, etc. - not just tuition 3. Check if the school participates in any tuition exchange programs that might give you a third option We ultimately went with the Chapter 35 route and it saved us about $12K per year compared to the scholarship option. The monthly housing allowance really adds up! Plus, my daughter qualified for additional need-based aid through FAFSA that she wouldn't have gotten with the higher out-of-state costs. One last tip - if you do go the Chapter 35 route, apply early for on-campus housing since the VA housing allowance rate is usually higher for students living on campus vs off-campus. Good luck with whatever you decide!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! The point about the housing allowance rate being higher for on-campus students is something I hadn't considered at all. That could definitely impact the total financial picture. I'm also really interested in your mention of "stackable" scholarships - did your daughter's school have a list of which ones could be combined with VA benefits, or did you have to ask about each one individually? And when you say you saved $12K per year, was that after factoring in all the additional costs beyond just tuition?

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I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation with my stepson who's eligible for Chapter 35 benefits. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational! One thing I wanted to add that I learned from our local VFW chapter - make sure to ask the school's Veterans Services office if they have a dedicated Chapter 35 coordinator. Apparently some larger universities have staff who specialize specifically in Dependents' Educational Assistance rather than just general VA benefits, and they often know about workarounds or additional funding sources that the regular financial aid staff might not be aware of. Also, I noticed someone mentioned the book allowance - does anyone know if that $1,200 is paid directly to the student or to the school? My stepson is hoping to buy used books to save money, so it would be helpful to know if he'll have flexibility with how those funds are used. The math breakdown that @Amara Chukwu provided is super helpful for understanding the real cost difference. It's amazing how much the Chapter 35 benefits can actually cover when you factor in all the components!

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Welcome to the community! Great question about the book allowance - from what I understand, the $1,200 book stipend is typically paid directly to the student at the beginning of each term, so your stepson should have flexibility to shop around for used books and pocket any savings. That's actually a smart strategy since textbook costs can vary so much depending on where you buy them. The idea about finding a dedicated Chapter 35 coordinator is brilliant too - I wish I had known to ask about that specifically when we first started this process. It sounds like having someone who really understands the nuances of dependents' benefits could save a lot of confusion and potentially uncover additional resources.

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I'm new to this community and currently dealing with VA benefits for my own daughter who's starting college next year. This thread has been incredibly informative! One additional resource that might help - have you reached out to a Student Veterans of America (SVA) chapter at the school? Many universities have these student organizations, and they often have members who've navigated similar benefit conflicts. Sometimes peer advice from students who've actually been through the process can be just as valuable as official guidance. Also, I'm curious - did the financial aid office give you a deadline for making this decision? Some schools have different deadlines for accepting scholarships vs. enrolling in VA benefits, and timing could be a factor if you need more time to crunch all these numbers and explore alternatives. The consensus here seems pretty clear that the Chapter 35 route is financially better based on your specific numbers, but I'd definitely encourage following up on some of the creative suggestions like asking about scholarship redesignation or checking for Colorado state benefits. Every little bit helps when you're trying to make college affordable!

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Welcome to the community, Omar! Great suggestion about reaching out to the Student Veterans of America chapter - I hadn't thought of that resource. You're absolutely right that getting peer perspectives from students who've actually navigated these benefit decisions could provide insights that even the official advisors might miss. Regarding deadlines, the financial aid office gave us until April 15th to make our final decision on the scholarship, but the VA benefits don't have the same kind of acceptance deadline since they're an entitlement. That said, we do need to get the paperwork started soon if we're going with Chapter 35 so everything is processed in time for fall semester. Your point about exploring every option is spot on. Even though the math seems to favor Chapter 35, I want to make sure we've exhausted all possibilities for creative solutions before making the final call. The suggestion about scholarship redesignation is definitely something I plan to pursue this week!

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I'm new to this community and navigating FAFSA for the first time with my son who's eligible for Chapter 35 benefits. This entire thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea these kinds of conflicts between VA benefits and scholarships were so common. Reading through everyone's experiences and the detailed math breakdowns really drives home how important it is to calculate the TOTAL financial picture, not just look at the headline scholarship amount. The point about the monthly housing allowance and book stipend adding significant value to the Chapter 35 benefits is something I definitely need to factor in for my own situation. I'm curious - for those who went the Chapter 35 route, did you find that having the guaranteed monthly payments made budgeting easier compared to having a large scholarship amount applied once per semester? The predictability of the VA benefits seems like it could be helpful for financial planning throughout the school year. Also, thank you to everyone who shared specific resources like contacting Veterans Services offices, Student Veterans of America chapters, and even that tip about Claimyr for getting through to FSA. Having these concrete next steps makes the whole process feel much more manageable!

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Welcome to the community, Ava! You're absolutely right about the importance of looking at the total financial picture rather than just the headline numbers. That's something I learned the hard way during this process! To answer your question about budgeting - the predictable monthly payments from Chapter 35 definitely do make financial planning easier. Instead of having to manage large lump sums at the beginning of each semester, the steady monthly income helps with cash flow throughout the year. This is especially helpful for covering ongoing expenses like groceries, transportation, and personal expenses that come up regularly rather than all at once. I'm really grateful for all the advice everyone has shared here too. It's been so much more helpful than trying to navigate this maze alone! The variety of perspectives and real-world experiences has given me confidence that we're making an informed decision. Good luck with your son's situation - definitely take advantage of all those resources people mentioned!

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I'm new to this community but have been following this discussion closely as I'm dealing with a similar situation for my nephew who qualifies for Chapter 35 benefits. One angle that hasn't been explored yet - have you considered reaching out to the school's alumni association or development office? Sometimes they have discretionary scholarship funds specifically for unique situations like this that aren't widely advertised. A friend of mine found out about a "bridge scholarship" that helped cover the gap when her daughter had to choose between different types of aid. Also, based on all the excellent math breakdowns here, it really seems like the Chapter 35 route is your best bet financially. But I'd suggest documenting this entire decision-making process and all the advice you've received. If your daughter decides to transfer or if circumstances change, having this information organized could save you from having to research everything all over again. The community knowledge here has been incredible - I've learned more about VA benefits in this one thread than from hours of official websites!

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Welcome to the community, Olivia! That's a fantastic suggestion about reaching out to the alumni association or development office - I never would have thought to look for discretionary funds there. A "bridge scholarship" sounds like exactly the kind of creative solution that could make a real difference in situations like this. You're absolutely right about documenting everything too. This process has been so complex with so many different factors to consider, and I can definitely see how having all this information organized could be valuable down the road. Plus, if we encounter other families in similar situations, we could share what we've learned. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with the Chapter 35 benefits after all the analysis and advice from everyone here. The math really does seem to clearly favor that route, and the additional benefits like the book allowance and predictable monthly payments make it even more attractive. Thank you for adding another resource to explore - I'll definitely call the development office this week!

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I'm new to this community and just wanted to say thank you for posting this question! My daughter is a junior in high school and will likely qualify for Chapter 35 benefits through my husband's service, so this entire discussion has been incredibly valuable for our future planning. The detailed math breakdowns and real-world experiences everyone has shared here have really opened my eyes to how complex these decisions can be. I had assumed that any scholarship would automatically be better than VA benefits, but clearly that's not always the case! The point about factoring in the book allowance, housing stipend, and predictable monthly payments versus lump sum scholarships is something I never would have considered. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and start researching some of the resources mentioned - especially about finding dedicated Chapter 35 coordinators at schools and reaching out to Student Veterans of America chapters. It sounds like having the right contacts can make all the difference in navigating these benefit conflicts. Based on everything discussed here, it really does seem like the Chapter 35 route would be the better financial choice for your situation. Wishing you and your daughter the best with whatever decision you make!

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Welcome to the community, Chloe! It's great that you're thinking about this early while your daughter is still a junior - that gives you so much more time to research and plan than families who are scrambling to figure it out during senior year. You're absolutely right that this discussion has shown how scholarships aren't automatically better than VA benefits. The devil is really in the details when it comes to calculating total cost of attendance versus total benefit value. I'd also recommend starting to build relationships with Veterans Services offices at schools your daughter is interested in, even before she applies. Having those contacts established early could be really helpful when it comes time to navigate any benefit conflicts or find additional resources. Good luck with your planning!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar last year with my son's Chapter 35 benefits and a merit scholarship conflict. After reading all the excellent advice here, I'd strongly recommend creating a detailed spreadsheet comparing both scenarios over the full 4 years, including some costs that might not be obvious: - Don't forget about mandatory fees (recreation, technology, lab fees) which can differ between in-state/out-of-state students - Factor in the Chapter 35 housing allowance rate for your specific zip code (you can look this up on the VA website) - Consider whether your daughter might take summer classes, as this affects the 36-month benefit calculation - Look into whether the school has payment plan options that work better with monthly VA payments vs. semester scholarship disbursements One thing that really helped us was asking the financial aid office for a "net price calculator" specifically for our situation. Most schools have these tools but they don't always account for VA benefits properly. Also, if you do go the Chapter 35 route, make sure to submit your Certificate of Eligibility early - VA processing times can be unpredictable and you don't want delays affecting your daughter's enrollment. Good luck with this difficult decision!

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