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Vera Visnjic

FAFSA confusion - PharmD student getting BS mid-grad year - Undergraduate or Graduate status?

I'm completely lost on how to fill out my daughter's FAFSA for next year. She's in a pharmacy program where she'll be considered a grad student next year, but won't actually receive her Bachelor's in Pharmaceutical Science until AFTER she completes her first year of grad school. The whole program culminates in her PharmD. The financial aid office at her school gave conflicting information - first they said file as undergrad, then someone else said grad student. Anybody dealt with these pharmacy or similar professional degree programs? Does she file as undergrad until she physically has the BS degree, or as graduate since she'll technically be in the graduate phase of her program? The difference in loan limits is significant!

Jake Sinclair

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This is actually a common situation in PharmD programs! For FAFSA purposes, she should be classified as a graduate student if she's officially enrolled in the graduate phase of the program, even if she hasn't received her BS yet. What matters is her official enrollment status at the institution, not whether she physically has the undergraduate degree in hand.

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Vera Visnjic

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Thank you! That makes sense. The school has officially classified her as a 'P1' (first year pharmacy) student for next year. I was just thrown off since they told us she'll get her BS after completing that P1 year.

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my son went thru the same thing with his PT doctorate. financial aid office was USELESS - kept giving different answers. finally found out he's grad student once he starts the actual pharmd portion regardless of the BS timing. something about the 'primary degree program' being the determining factor.

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Vera Visnjic

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This seems to be a systemic issue then! Did your son end up getting less aid as a graduate student? I'm worried about the higher interest rates on grad loans.

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yep he got less free money but higher loan limits. the interest rates SUCK tho. make sure she applies for pharmacy-specific scholarships!! there r tons for p1 students

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Honorah King

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I work in financial aid at a university with several accelerated professional programs. The official rule is that once a student is admitted to and enrolled in the graduate portion of their program, they're considered a graduate student for federal aid purposes, regardless of when the bachelor's degree is officially conferred. This is spelled out in the Federal Student Aid Handbook, Chapter 6. The key is whether her program has officially transitioned her into graduate-level coursework and status.

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Vera Visnjic

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This is exactly what I needed to know! So even though it seems strange to be a "graduate" student before technically having a bachelor's degree, the classification is based on program enrollment rather than degrees held. I'll have her check with the pharmacy school about her official classification for next year. Thank you!

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Oliver Brown

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just wondering why this matters? doesn't fafsa give same amount either way?

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Honorah King

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It actually makes a significant difference. Graduate students have higher annual and aggregate loan limits for Direct Unsubsidized Loans ($20,500/year vs $5,500-$7,500 for dependent undergrads). However, graduate students are not eligible for Direct Subsidized Loans or Pell Grants. Interest rates and loan fees are also typically higher for graduate students. The classification affects both the amount and type of aid available.

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Mary Bates

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I spent THREE HOURS on hold with Federal Student Aid trying to get this exact question answered for my daughter's PA program last year. When I finally got through, they confirmed what others have said - the official enrollment status determines it, not when the degree is conferred. If you need to speak with FSA directly, I highly recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They waited on hold for me and called when an agent was ready. Saved me hours of frustration! There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ that shows how it works. So much better than the endless hold music.

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Vera Visnjic

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Thanks for the tip! I was actually thinking about calling FSA directly since the school's been inconsistent. I'll check that service out if I need to call them. Did your daughter end up having to file as a graduate student?

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Mary Bates

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Yes, she had to file as a graduate student once she was in the graduate phase, even though her bachelor's wasn't conferred until halfway through that first year. It worked out fine, but we had to plan for the different loan structure.

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My daughter went through something similar in her DPT program. Here's what tripped us up: she was considered a graduate student for FAFSA but when she applied for private loans they wanted proof of her bachelor's degree which she didn't have yet!!! Had to get the school to write a special letter explaining the program structure. So even after you figure out the FAFSA part, be prepared for other complications if she needs additional loans.

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Vera Visnjic

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Oh no, I hadn't even thought about private loans! She will definitely need some beyond the federal loans. Thank you for the heads up - I'll have her request that letter in advance.

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Ayla Kumar

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Its all about paperwrk. Get it IN WRITING from the program director. I went thru this w/ my dental program and ended up missing out on some aid bcuz I checked the wrong box. The jargon is she's in a "first-professional degree program" which is diff than just grad school. Make sure u know EXACTLY what program type their classifying it as 2.

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Vera Visnjic

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That's great advice - I hadn't heard of "first-professional degree program" classification. I'll email her program director tomorrow for formal documentation. Sorry you missed out on aid because of this confusing system!

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has anyone here had experience with whether this affects parent contribution expectations? i'm wondering because graduate students are automatically independent on FAFSA but if she's still technically working on undergrad degree does that mean we still have to provide our info?

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Jake Sinclair

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Great question! If she's classified as a graduate student for FAFSA purposes, she's automatically considered independent regardless of when the bachelor's degree is actually conferred. That means parent information isn't required for the FAFSA. However, some graduate programs still request parent information for institutional aid through the CSS Profile, even though it's not needed for federal aid purposes.

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Honorah King

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One more important point: Make sure you complete the 2025-2026 FAFSA instead of the 2024-2025 form if you're applying for aid for next academic year. With all the FAFSA changes and the new SAI calculation, many families are filling out the wrong year's form, especially since the new one was delayed. The 2025-2026 FAFSA is the one that requires the new FSA ID verification process for both student and contributors.

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Vera Visnjic

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That's a really good reminder! We definitely need the 2025-2026 form. We've already gone through the FSA ID verification process, but it was confusing with the new contributor requirements. Is there a specific section on that form where we need to indicate her graduate status?

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Ava Garcia

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my nephew who's starting his PharmD program next year. One thing I'd add is to also check if her school participates in the Federal Work-Study program for graduate students - many people don't realize graduate students can still be eligible for work-study even though they can't get Pell Grants. It's not a huge amount but every bit helps with these professional programs being so expensive. Also, make sure she's registered for selective service if applicable, as that can affect federal aid eligibility regardless of undergrad/grad status.

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Molly Hansen

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Thanks for mentioning work-study! I hadn't even thought about that possibility for graduate students. I'll definitely have her check with the financial aid office about work-study opportunities in the pharmacy program. The selective service registration is a good reminder too - I think she's all set on that front but I'll double-check. These professional programs really are expensive, so any additional funding sources help!

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NeonNinja

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As someone who just went through this exact situation with my daughter's PharmD program last year, I can confirm what others have said - she'll be classified as a graduate student once she enters the P1 year, even without the BS in hand. What really helped us was getting a letter from the pharmacy school's registrar explicitly stating her enrollment status and degree program classification. We used this for both FAFSA and when applying for private loans. Also, don't forget to look into pharmacy-specific scholarships and grants - organizations like AACP, APhA, and state pharmacy associations often have funding specifically for P1 students. The transition from undergrad to grad aid can be jarring financially, but there are resources out there specifically for pharmacy students that can help bridge the gap!

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This is such valuable advice! I'm definitely going to request that letter from the registrar - it sounds like it could save us headaches down the road with both federal and private loans. I hadn't thought about the pharmacy-specific organizations you mentioned. Do you happen to remember if there were application deadlines we should be aware of for those scholarships? I want to make sure we don't miss any opportunities while we're figuring out all the FAFSA complications.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who works in pharmacy school admissions - the classification can sometimes vary slightly between schools, so definitely get that written confirmation others have mentioned! One thing that caught us off guard with several families is that some schools classify students differently for tuition purposes versus financial aid purposes. For example, a student might pay graduate tuition rates but still be considered undergraduate for certain institutional scholarships. Make sure you ask specifically about both federal aid classification AND any school-specific aid programs. Also, if your daughter is planning to do any pharmacy rotations or externships during her program, those can sometimes affect her enrollment status for certain semesters, which could impact aid disbursement. It's worth asking about how the school handles aid during clinical rotations so you can plan accordingly!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed insight I was hoping for! I hadn't considered that tuition classification might be different from financial aid classification - that's definitely something we need to clarify with her school. The point about clinical rotations potentially affecting enrollment status is really important too. Her program has rotations starting in the P3 year, so I'll make sure to ask how that impacts aid disbursement. It sounds like getting everything in writing upfront will save us from scrambling later when these issues come up. Thank you for sharing your professional perspective on this!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation for my son who's starting a 6-year PharmD program next fall! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. One additional resource I found was the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators (NASFAA) website - they have specific guidance documents about professional degree programs that helped clarify some of the federal regulations. Also, if anyone's still confused about the graduate vs undergraduate classification, the Department of Education's Federal Student Aid website has a "Contact Us" feature where you can submit written questions and get official responses in writing. It takes a few days but gives you something official to reference if schools give conflicting information. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this stuff is so confusing but knowing others have navigated it successfully is reassuring!

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Lara Woods

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Thank you for mentioning NASFAA and the Department of Education's written inquiry option! I hadn't thought about getting an official written response directly from the Department of Education - that would definitely be helpful to have on file if we run into more conflicting information from different offices at the school. The NASFAA website sounds like a great resource too. It's really reassuring to see so many families have successfully navigated these complicated professional degree programs. Good luck with your son's PharmD program!

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Ellie Simpson

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm about to start navigating this exact same situation with my daughter who's entering a PharmD program next year, and I was completely overwhelmed by the conflicting information we've been getting. Reading everyone's experiences and advice has given me a clear roadmap of what to expect and what questions to ask. The key takeaways I'm noting are: 1) Get written confirmation from both the registrar and financial aid office about her official classification, 2) She'll likely be considered a graduate student once in the P1 phase regardless of when the BS is conferred, 3) Look into pharmacy-specific scholarships early, and 4) Be prepared for complications with private loans. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge - this community is exactly what families like ours need when dealing with these complex professional degree programs!

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Isabella Costa

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Welcome to the community! I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too. It's amazing how many of us are dealing with these same confusing professional degree program issues. Your summary of key takeaways is spot on - especially getting everything in writing from multiple offices at the school. I'd also add that it's worth asking about how the school handles the transition if there are any changes to her enrollment status during the program. One thing I learned from reading everyone's responses is that communication between different departments (admissions, registrar, financial aid) isn't always consistent, so having documentation from each can really save headaches later. Best of luck with your daughter's PharmD journey - sounds like she's lucky to have such a proactive parent helping navigate all this!

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Sadie Benitez

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As someone who just went through this exact situation with my daughter's PharmD program application, I can definitely relate to the confusion! What helped us immensely was scheduling a meeting with both the financial aid office AND the registrar's office at the same time. We literally had representatives from both departments in the same room so they couldn't give us conflicting information. They confirmed she would be classified as a graduate student starting P1 year, even though her BS wouldn't be conferred until after that first year. We also discovered that her school has a specific "Professional Student" designation that affects certain institutional scholarships differently than regular graduate students. I'd strongly recommend asking if your daughter's program has any special classifications like this that might impact aid beyond just the federal undergraduate vs graduate distinction. Also, make sure to ask about summer enrollment requirements - some PharmD programs require summer coursework that can affect full-time vs part-time status for aid purposes!

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Miguel Diaz

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What a brilliant idea to get both departments in the same room at once! That would have saved us so much back-and-forth confusion. I'm definitely going to request a joint meeting like that. The "Professional Student" designation you mentioned is something I hadn't heard of before - that could explain some of the conflicting information we've been getting. I'll make sure to ask specifically about any special classifications that might affect institutional aid differently. The summer enrollment point is really important too - her program does have some summer requirements and I hadn't considered how that might impact her aid status. Thank you for such practical, actionable advice!

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