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Who is exempt from paying Washington ESD unemployment taxes - confused about employer requirements

I'm starting a small business in Washington state and trying to figure out if I need to pay unemployment taxes. I've heard some employers are exempt but can't find clear information about who exactly doesn't have to pay into the Washington ESD system. Does anyone know the specific exemptions? I don't want to mess this up and get hit with penalties later.

Most employers in Washington have to pay unemployment taxes, but there are some exemptions. Religious organizations, certain nonprofits with 501(c)(3) status, and some agricultural employers have different rules. You'll want to check with Washington ESD directly about your specific situation.

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Thanks! I'm not in any of those categories so I probably need to register. Do you know what the current tax rate is?

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The rate varies based on your experience rating, but new employers typically start around 2.7% on the first $62,500 of each employee's wages for 2025.

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i think sole proprietors dont have to pay unemployment taxes for themselves but not 100% sure about that

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That's correct - sole proprietors and partners in partnerships can't collect unemployment on themselves, so they don't pay unemployment taxes on their own earnings. But if they have employees, they still need to pay unemployment taxes for those workers.

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That makes sense. I'll be hiring employees eventually so I'll need to set this up properly from the start.

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I had to deal with this when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my employer registration. Spent hours on hold trying to get answers about tax requirements. Finally used Claimyr.com to actually reach someone - they have this system that gets you connected to ESD agents without the endless hold times. Check out their video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ if you're having trouble reaching them directly.

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That's really helpful! I was dreading having to call them. How long did it take to get connected?

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Way faster than calling directly. Got through to someone who could actually answer my questions about employer requirements and tax rates.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but if it works for employer questions too that could be useful. I've been trying to reach ESD about my tax account for weeks.

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Here are the main exemptions from Washington unemployment taxes: 1) Religious organizations that are operated primarily for religious purposes, 2) Certain 501(c)(3) nonprofits can elect reimbursement method instead of paying taxes, 3) Some agricultural labor under specific conditions, 4) Railroad workers covered under federal Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act, 5) Federal employees covered by their own system. Most regular businesses don't qualify for exemptions.

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This is exactly what I needed! Since I'm starting a regular LLC, looks like I'll need to register and pay the taxes.

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Don't forget about the small employer exemption too - if you have less than a certain number of employees or payroll amount, there might be different requirements.

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Good point! In Washington, you're generally required to register once you have at least one employee or if your quarterly payroll exceeds $1,000.

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ugh the whole unemployment tax system is so confusing. i run a tiny business and still have to deal with all this paperwork and payments. seems like only big corporations and churches get breaks

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I understand the frustration, but the unemployment system protects your employees if they lose their job. It's actually beneficial to have that safety net in place.

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yeah i guess you're right, just wish the rules were clearer upfront

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what about family businesses? do you have to pay unemployment taxes if you only employ family members?

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There are some exceptions for family members. Spouses, children under 21, and parents working for their child's business may be exempt from unemployment taxes. But the rules are specific and have conditions.

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interesting, my brother works for my business so i should look into that

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Another reason I should probably just call and get clarification on my specific situation.

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One important thing to remember is that even if you think you might be exempt, it's better to register and find out for sure rather than risk penalties. Washington ESD takes unemployment tax compliance seriously and the fines for not registering when you should have can be substantial.

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Good advice. I'd rather be safe than sorry with something like this.

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Exactly what happened to a friend of mine - thought they were exempt as a small business but ended up owing back taxes plus penalties. Cost them way more than just paying from the start.

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Does anyone know if independent contractors count toward the employee threshold? I use a lot of 1099 workers but no W2 employees yet.

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Independent contractors (1099 workers) generally don't count toward unemployment requirements since they're not employees. But make sure they're properly classified as contractors - misclassification can create big problems.

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Thanks, that's what I thought but wanted to confirm. I'm careful about the contractor classification rules.

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That's another thing I need to research - the difference between employees and contractors for tax purposes.

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My accountant handles all this for me, but from what I understand the exemptions are pretty limited. Most businesses end up having to pay unless they're churches or certain types of nonprofits.

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I'm trying to handle this myself to save money starting out, but maybe I should consult an accountant just to make sure I set things up correctly.

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It might be worth it for the initial setup, then you can handle the ongoing requirements yourself once you understand them.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I actually used them again last week when I had questions about my quarterly tax filing. Way easier than trying to navigate the Washington ESD phone system. Really saved me time and frustration.

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I'm definitely going to check that out. Sounds like it could save me a lot of headaches.

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How much does it cost to use their service?

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I didn't worry too much about the cost since my time is valuable and I needed answers. Check their website at claimyr.com for details.

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been running my business for 5 years now and still learning new things about unemployment taxes every year. the rules change and there are always edge cases. just register and pay - it's easier than trying to figure out if you qualify for an exemption

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That seems to be the consensus - better to just comply from the start rather than risk issues later.

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exactly, and the rates aren't that bad compared to other business taxes anyway

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What about seasonal businesses? I only operate during summer months - do I still need to pay unemployment taxes year-round?

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Yes, if you meet the requirements for coverage, you're subject to unemployment taxes even if you're seasonal. However, your employees might be eligible for benefits during your off-season depending on their work history.

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Makes sense I guess. Just adds to the complexity of running a seasonal operation.

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I thought I was exempt as a sole proprietor but then hired my first employee and had to scramble to get registered with Washington ESD. Don't make my mistake - research this before you need it!

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That's exactly why I'm asking now before I hire anyone. Want to have everything in place properly.

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Smart move. It took me weeks to get everything sorted out after the fact.

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Still trying to get through to ESD about my employer account issues. Might have to try that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. This is ridiculous how hard it is to reach them.

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Definitely try it. I was skeptical at first but it really works. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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At this point I'm willing to try anything. Thanks for the recommendation.

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The Washington ESD website has a tool to help determine if you need to register for unemployment taxes. Might be worth checking that out too.

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Good tip! I'll look for that on their website. Every bit of information helps.

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It's under the employer section. Pretty straightforward questionnaire that walks you through the requirements.

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remember that unemployment taxes are just part of the cost of doing business. budget for them from the start and you won't be surprised later

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Good point. I'm building all the employer taxes into my financial projections now.

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smart approach, also don't forget about workers comp and other employer requirements while you're at it

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Are there any penalties for registering late if you should have been paying unemployment taxes?

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Yes, there can be significant penalties and interest charges for late registration and unpaid taxes. Washington ESD takes compliance seriously and will assess back taxes plus penalties.

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Yikes, definitely don't want to deal with that. Better to register early and ask questions.

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Another reason to get this sorted out properly from the beginning.

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This thread has been really helpful! I was confused about the same thing for my new business. Sounds like most of us regular businesses just need to register and pay.

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Glad it helped you too! That seems to be the main takeaway - when in doubt, just register and comply.

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Exactly. The peace of mind is worth it.

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thanks everyone for all the info. going to call washington esd tomorrow to get my business registered. hopefully won't be too painful

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If you have trouble getting through, remember that Claimyr option. Saved me so much time and frustration with ESD calls.

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will definitely keep that in mind if the regular phone line doesn't work out

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! Sounds like I need to register for unemployment taxes since I'll be a regular business with employees. Going to get that process started this week and make sure I'm compliant from day one.

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Good decision. It's always better to be proactive with tax compliance. Best of luck with your new business!

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You'll be glad you handled this properly from the start. Makes everything smoother as you grow.

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And remember, if you need to reach ESD for any follow-up questions, Claimyr can help you get through faster than calling directly.

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Just wanted to add something I learned recently - even if you think you might qualify for an exemption, Washington ESD requires you to apply for that exemption formally. You can't just assume you're exempt and not register. I made this mistake with a nonprofit I helped start, thinking we were automatically exempt, but we still had to file paperwork to get the exemption approved. The application process takes time too, so it's better to start early if you think you might qualify.

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That's a really important point that I hadn't considered! I was assuming exemptions were automatic if you met the criteria. Good to know you actually have to apply and get approval first. This definitely reinforces my decision to just register as a regular business rather than trying to figure out if I might qualify for some exemption I'm not even sure about.

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This is such crucial information! I never would have thought that exemptions require formal applications - I assumed they were just automatic based on your business type. Thanks for sharing this, it could save people from getting into compliance issues later. Do you know roughly how long the exemption application process takes? I'm definitely going the regular registration route now rather than risk any delays or complications.

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