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Sofia Perez

Washington ESD benefits for temporary unemployment experienced by people changing jobs - what's it called?

I'm helping my sister understand her unemployment situation and I'm confused about terminology. She left her job at Microsoft in December to start a new position at Amazon in February, but the start date got pushed back to March. She filed for Washington ESD benefits for this gap period. What is this type of temporary unemployment called when you're between jobs? I want to make sure we're using the right terms when she calls Washington ESD about her claim status.

This is called 'transitional unemployment' or 'frictional unemployment' in economic terms. For Washington ESD purposes, it's just regular unemployment insurance (UI) as long as she meets the eligibility requirements. The key is that she didn't quit without good cause - having a confirmed start date that got delayed should qualify her.

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Sofia Perez

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Thank you! So when she talks to Washington ESD, she should just say regular UI claim, not use any special terminology?

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Exactly. Washington ESD doesn't have separate categories for this. Just regular unemployment benefits while she's between jobs.

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I was in the exact same situation last year when my job offer got delayed. Washington ESD approved my claim but it took forever to get through to someone to explain the situation. The phone lines are impossible.

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Sofia Perez

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How long did it take you to reach someone? My sister has been trying for days.

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Ava Johnson

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The formal term economists use is 'frictional unemployment' - it's the natural unemployment that occurs when people are between jobs. But yeah, for Washington ESD it's just standard UI benefits.

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Miguel Diaz

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never heard it called that before but makes sense

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Ava Johnson

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It's academic terminology mostly. Washington ESD just cares about whether you meet the basic eligibility requirements.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Make sure she's documenting everything about the delayed start date. Washington ESD might ask for proof that the job offer was legitimate and the delay wasn't her fault. Email confirmations, offer letters, anything showing the original start date and the delay.

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Sofia Perez

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Good point! She has the offer letter and emails about the delay. Should she upload those to her SAW account?

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Zainab Ahmed

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Yes, definitely upload them. If her claim goes into adjudication, having that documentation ready will speed things up.

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Connor Byrne

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing with all these different terms. why can't they just make it simple??

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I agree it's confusing, but for this situation it's actually straightforward - just regular unemployment benefits.

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Connor Byrne

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i guess but everything with unemployment feels complicated when you're stressed about money

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Yara Abboud

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I think there might be special rules for people who quit to take another job. She needs to be careful about how she explains the separation from Microsoft. Voluntary quits can be tricky.

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Zainab Ahmed

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That's a good point. She should emphasize that she had a confirmed job offer with a start date, not just that she quit to look for work.

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Sofia Perez

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She has the offer letter showing the original January start date and the email pushing it back. Should that be enough?

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Yara Abboud

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Yes, that documentation should show it was a reasonable decision to leave her previous job.

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Miguel Diaz

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happened to my friend too when her startup job fell through. took 2 months to get approved cause washington esd kept asking for more paperwork

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Sofia Perez

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Two months?! That's terrifying. Did she eventually get back pay for the whole period?

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Miguel Diaz

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yeah she got backpay but it was stressful waiting. make sure your sister keeps filing weekly claims even if her regular claim is pending

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One important thing - she needs to be available and actively seeking work even though she has a job starting in March. Washington ESD requires job search activities during the benefit period.

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Sofia Perez

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Wait, she has to look for other jobs when she already has one starting soon? That seems weird.

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It's a requirement to maintain eligibility. She needs to log job contacts in WorkSource Washington. The fact that she has a future start date doesn't exempt her from job search requirements.

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Sofia Perez

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Ok, I'll make sure she knows about the job search requirement. Thanks for the heads up!

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing - it was seriously a lifesaver for getting through to Washington ESD. I was spending hours every day trying to call and getting nowhere. With Claimyr I got connected in like 30 minutes.

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Sofia Perez

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Did it cost anything to use?

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There's a fee but it was worth it to actually talk to someone instead of wasting weeks trying to get through on my own.

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Ava Johnson

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For academic completeness, the three types of unemployment are frictional (between jobs), structural (skills don't match available jobs), and cyclical (economic downturns). Your sister's situation is textbook frictional unemployment.

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Connor Byrne

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ok but none of that matters for filing with washington esd right?

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Ava Johnson

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Correct, Washington ESD doesn't distinguish between these types. It's just helpful for understanding the broader economic context.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Another heads up - if Amazon pushes back the start date again, she should notify Washington ESD immediately. Changes in employment status can affect benefit eligibility.

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Sofia Perez

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Good thinking. Hopefully that won't happen but I'll let her know to report any changes.

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Miguel Diaz

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the whole system is set up to make it hard to get benefits. like why do they make you jump through so many hoops when you already paid into the system

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Yara Abboud

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I get the frustration but they have to verify eligibility to prevent fraud. It's annoying but necessary.

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Miguel Diaz

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i guess but they could make the process less painful

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Sofia Perez

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Update: My sister tried calling Washington ESD again this morning and actually got through! The agent confirmed that her situation qualifies for regular UI benefits and that having documentation of the delayed start date was helpful. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Great news! Glad she was able to get it sorted out.

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Awesome! Must have been a lucky day with the phone lines.

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PixelPioneer

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This thread was super helpful. I'm in a similar situation with a job starting in April. Going to file for Washington ESD benefits tomorrow.

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Sofia Perez

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Good luck! Make sure you have all your documentation ready in case they ask questions.

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PixelPioneer

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Will do. Thanks for sharing your sister's experience.

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Just to recap for anyone else in this situation: it's called frictional unemployment academically, but Washington ESD treats it as regular UI. Key things are documenting the job offer, the delay, and continuing to meet all eligibility requirements including job search.

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Sofia Perez

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Perfect summary. This should help anyone else dealing with the same situation.

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