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Washington ESD - Is short term disability considered unemployment benefits?

I'm really confused about whether short term disability payments count as unemployment benefits in Washington state. I've been getting STD payments from my employer's insurance for a back injury, but I'm not sure if this affects my ability to file for unemployment later or if Washington ESD considers this the same thing. My HR department wasn't very helpful when I asked. Does anyone know if these are treated differently by Washington ESD?

No, short term disability and unemployment are completely different programs with different eligibility requirements. STD is typically through private insurance or employer benefits for medical conditions, while unemployment through Washington ESD is for people who lost their job through no fault of their own and are able and available to work.

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Thanks for clarifying! So if I'm on STD now, I could potentially file for unemployment later when I'm cleared to work again?

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Yes, but you'd need to be medically cleared and able to work to qualify for unemployment benefits. Washington ESD requires you to be physically and mentally able to work.

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I had the same confusion last year! STD is for when you CAN'T work due to medical reasons, unemployment is for when you CAN work but don't have a job. They're opposites basically.

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That makes so much sense when you put it that way. I was overthinking it.

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yeah exactly - you can't be on both at the same time since the requirements contradict each other

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That's interesting, I didn't know there were services to help with calling Washington ESD. The phone lines are always so busy.

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Just to add some detail - short term disability is usually a percentage of your wages (like 60-70%) paid by insurance when you're medically unable to work. Washington ESD unemployment is based on your work history and requires you to actively search for work. The application processes are totally different too.

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Good point about the work search requirement. I definitely wouldn't be able to do that while on medical leave.

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The wage calculation is different too - STD is usually based on current salary, UI is based on your earnings history over the base period.

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been on both at different times - when my company laid me off while I was on STD, I had to wait until I was medically cleared before I could apply for unemployment. Washington ESD was very clear that I couldn't collect UI while unable to work

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Wow, that's a tough situation. How long did you have to wait between the two?

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about 3 months - had to get doctor clearance first, then apply for UI. but the timing worked out ok financially

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The key difference is the 'able and available' requirement for unemployment. If you're on STD, by definition you're not able to work, so you can't meet Washington ESD's basic eligibility requirements.

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That's the piece I was missing - the 'able and available' requirement. Makes perfect sense now.

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Exactly! And Washington ESD takes that requirement seriously - they'll verify your ability to work if there's any question.

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One thing to watch out for - if you're collecting STD and your employment ends, you might have a gap between when STD ends and when you can start collecting unemployment. Make sure you understand the timing.

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Good point! I should probably talk to my doctor about the expected timeline for my recovery.

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Yeah and some STD policies have waiting periods too, so there can be gaps in coverage if you're not careful.

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Also worth noting - STD payments won't affect your unemployment benefit calculation later since they're not considered wages. Washington ESD only looks at actual work earnings.

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That's really helpful to know! I was worried the STD payments might somehow reduce my future unemployment benefits.

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Right - they're treated as insurance payments, not wages, so they don't impact your base period earnings.

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If you need to talk to Washington ESD about this situation, I'd suggest using Claimyr to get through to an agent. The automated system can be confusing for these kinds of questions that involve multiple benefit types.

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Several people have mentioned Claimyr now - seems like it might be worth trying if I need to call Washington ESD.

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It's definitely worth it if you're dealing with complex questions like this. Much easier than trying to navigate the phone system yourself.

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Another consideration - some employers offer both STD and unemployment insurance as separate benefits. They're administered differently and have different claim processes.

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I should check my employee handbook to see exactly what my company offers. Thanks for the reminder!

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Good idea - HR should have details about both programs and how they interact with each other.

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Just to summarize for anyone else reading - STD is for medical inability to work, UI is for work-ready people without jobs. They serve different purposes and you generally can't be on both simultaneously.

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Perfect summary! This thread has been super helpful in clearing up my confusion.

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Glad this discussion helped! These benefit programs can be really confusing when you're dealing with them for the first time.

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One more tip - if you transition from STD to unemployment, make sure you have all your medical clearance documentation ready when you apply. Washington ESD might ask for it to verify you're able to work.

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Great advice! I'll make sure to keep all my medical records organized for when I'm ready to return to work.

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Yeah, having that documentation ready can speed up the process significantly. Washington ESD likes to have everything well-documented.

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For what it's worth, I used Claimyr when I had questions about transitioning between different benefit types. Being able to actually talk to an ESD agent made all the difference in understanding my options.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where I'd want to talk to someone directly rather than trying to figure it out online.

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Absolutely - some questions are just too complex for the automated systems to handle properly.

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Also remember that STD benefits might be taxable depending on who pays the premiums, while unemployment benefits are definitely taxable. Different tax implications to consider.

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Oh good point about taxes! I hadn't even thought about that aspect yet.

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Yeah, it's worth talking to a tax professional if you're dealing with multiple benefit types in the same year.

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The timing of when you can apply for unemployment after STD ends is important too. You want to apply as soon as you're medically cleared to avoid any gaps in benefits.

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That makes sense. I should probably start preparing my unemployment application while I'm still on STD so I'm ready to submit it quickly.

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Smart thinking! You can gather all your employment history and documentation ahead of time.

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This has been a really informative discussion! I learned a lot about the differences between these programs that I didn't know before.

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Same here! I feel much more confident about navigating this situation now.

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These kinds of discussions are so valuable for people dealing with these complex benefit systems.

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