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PFMLA benefit calculation using old employer wages instead of current job - why?

I'm so confused about how PFMLA calculates my benefit amount. I started a new job 8 months ago with much better pay ($28/hr vs $18/hr at my old job). I'm taking leave for a family emergency in March, and my current employer is holding my position. But when I got my benefit determination letter, they're calculating based on my old job that I haven't worked at in almost a year! The benefit amount is WAY less than I expected. Does anyone know why they're using my old wages instead of my current job for the calculation? This feels so unfair when my current employer is the one holding my position.

Yuki Sato

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This is because PFMLA uses what they call your "qualifying period" - it's the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. So right now they're looking at income from late 2023/early 2024, not your most recent paychecks. It's a weird system but that's how it works. Your newer, higher wages might not all be counted yet depending on exactly when you started the new job.

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StarStrider

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Wait, seriously? So I'm going to get paid based on a job I don't even work at anymore?? That seems so wrong when I've been at my new job for 8 months already!

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Carmen Ruiz

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I went through this same EXACT situation last year! It's because PFMLA has a weird lag in how they calculate benefits. They use what's called a "base year" - which is basically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you apply. So they're ignoring your most recent 3-5 months of wages completely. It sucks but that's how the system works. If you can afford to, you might consider delaying your leave by a quarter so more of your higher wages fall into the calculation period.

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StarStrider

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Unfortunately I can't delay - it's a medical emergency with my mom. This is so frustrating! I've been paying into the system at my higher wage but getting benefits based on my lower one.

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they do this with regular unemployment too its so stupid. its like the system is designed to pay u as little as possible lol

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Yup! Both systems use the same bizarre calculation method. I think they do it because it takes time for employers to report wages to the state. Still feels unfair though.

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It's frustrating, but this is how all wage-replacement programs work in Washington (UI, PFMLA, L&I). The qualifying period is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before your claim. This lag exists because employers report wages quarterly, and the system needs time to process all reported wages. If you just started your higher-paying job 8 months ago, only part of those wages are in your qualifying period. The system isn't designed to be unfair - it's just that they need verified wage data, which has this built-in delay. One thing to check: make sure all your wages are actually showing in your determination letter. Sometimes employers fail to properly report wages, which can affect your benefit amount.

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StarStrider

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Thanks for explaining. Is there any way to appeal this or get them to reconsider using my more recent wages? It's a pretty significant difference in my case.

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Mei Wong

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QuantumQuasar

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Does this actually work? I've been trying to get through for over a week with no luck.

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Mei Wong

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It did for me! I was skeptical too but I was desperate. Got through to someone who could actually help with my PFMLA questions.

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Unfortunately, there's no appeal process for this specific issue because ESD is correctly following the law as written. The wage calculation method is defined in the statute. They can't make exceptions even if your situation seems unfair. You can request a redetermination if you believe there's an error in your wage record (like missing wages that should be counted), but they won't change the time period they're looking at. Your best option might be to see if your employer offers supplemental benefits. Some employers have policies that allow them to "top up" your PFMLA benefits to bring them closer to your regular pay.

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StarStrider

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Thanks for the honest answer. I'll check with my HR department about supplemental benefits. I didn't even think to ask about that!

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Yuki Sato

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FYI this wage calculation method is actually better for some people - like if you recently had your hours cut or took a lower-paying job. Then you'd get benefits based on your previous higher wages. It works both ways.

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thats actually a good point! never thought about it that way

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My sister just went through this with her PFMLA claim. She ended up having to use some saved PTO to supplement her leave because the benefit amount was so much lower than expected. It really does feel like the system is designed to confuse people and pay out less. The same thing happened when I was on unemployment in 2024 - they used my 2023 wages even though I had a raise right before being laid off.

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StarStrider

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I think I'll have to do the same thing with my PTO. Good to know I'm not alone in being confused by this! Thanks for sharing your experience.

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StarStrider

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Thanks everyone for all the explanations. Still feels unfair but at least I understand why it's happening now. I've checked with my HR and they don't offer any supplemental benefits, so I'll use some of my PTO to help cover the gap. Really appreciate all the insights!

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