Laid off but collecting pension - can my friend still get ESD unemployment benefits?
My friend (63) just got laid off from her part-time job at a medical office where she's worked for the last 4 years. She also receives a pension from her previous employer where she worked for 25+ years. Someone told her that because she gets a pension, she's automatically disqualified from receiving any unemployment benefits from ESD. Is this actually true? Seems unfair considering she was working and paying into the system all this time. Does pension income completely disqualify you or does it just reduce your weekly benefit amount? Any insights would be really helpful since she's stressing about making ends meet until she finds another job.
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StarSeeker
Your friend should definitely still apply! Having a pension doesn't automatically disqualify you from receiving unemployment in Washington. What happens is that ESD will likely deduct a portion of the pension amount from the weekly benefit amount - but only if the pension was from the same employer that laid her off. If the pension is from a different employer than the one she just got laid off from, it might not affect her benefits at all. The formula ESD uses is a bit complicated, but basically they look at whether the base period employer contributed to the pension. Tell her to go ahead and apply online and answer all questions honestly about her pension income.
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Ava Martinez
•This is right!! My husband gets a military pension and still qualified for full unemployment benefits when he lost his civilian job last year. The key is whether the pension comes from the SAME employer who laid you off.
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Miguel Ortiz
WRONG INFORMATION BEING SHARED HERE!! I tried this last year and got DENIED because of my pension. They asked for ALL income sources and when I put down my pension they reduced my benefit to ZERO! The ESD guy told me any retirement income counts against your benefit amount. Its a SCAM they dont tell u about until after u waste time applying!!!
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StarSeeker
•That's not entirely accurate. The law specifically states that pensions only affect your unemployment if they're from an employer who contributed to your base period wages (meaning one of the employers you worked for in the 12-18 months before filing). It's possible your situation was different or the ESD representative wasn't explaining it clearly. Your friend should still apply and let ESD make the determination based on her specific circumstances.
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Zainab Omar
I work with unemployment cases quite frequently. Here's the actual rule from Washington state law: Pension deduction only applies when: 1. You're receiving a pension, and 2. The employer who laid you off is the same employer who contributed to that pension If your friend's pension is from a completely different employer than the medical office that laid her off, then the pension should NOT reduce her unemployment benefits at all. If the pension is from the same employer, then ESD will reduce her weekly benefit by the prorated weekly amount of the pension that was funded by the employer (not the portion she contributed). She should absolutely apply and be very clear about where her pension comes from. Different states have different rules about this, so your friend may have heard about pension rules from another state.
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Dmitry Volkov
•Thank you for clarifying this! Her pension is definitely from a different employer than the medical office, so sounds like she should be fine. I'll tell her to apply right away.
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Connor Murphy
my dad had this same question when he got laid off last month he worked part time at home depot but gets boeing pension and he DID qualify for some benefits but they did reduce it a little bit i think it depends on how much the pension is and how much she was making at the job
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Yara Sayegh
I've been trying to reach ESD for three weeks about this exact situation! Good luck getting anyone on the phone to answer questions. Every time I call, I get an automated message saying high call volume and to try again later. I've tried morning, afternoon, different days... impossible to reach anyone. Ended up just applying anyway and hoping for the best.
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NebulaNova
•If you're still trying to reach ESD, I was in the same boat last month and found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes after I'd been trying for days on my own. It saved me so much frustration! Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 I had a complex situation with part-time work and they were able to answer all my questions. Worth checking out if you're still stuck trying to get through.
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Ava Martinez
Make sure your friend completes her weekly claims even while waiting for the initial determination! My brother almost lost out on back benefits because he didn't realize you need to keep filing every week even before they decide if you qualify. Also tell her to be ready to provide documentation about both the pension amount and which company it comes from.
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Dmitry Volkov
•That's really good advice, I'll make sure she knows to file weekly claims right away. Do you know how long the determination usually takes? She's worried about paying her mortgage next month.
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Zainab Omar
One more important thing for your friend to be aware of: once she starts receiving unemployment benefits, she'll need to complete three job search activities each week and document them. Even though she's at retirement age, if she's collecting unemployment, ESD will expect her to be actively seeking work that's similar to her previous position. Make sure she knows to keep detailed records of all job search activities.
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Connor Murphy
•the job search requirement is so annoying especially for older workers! my dad had to apply to all these jobs he knew he wouldn't get just to check the boxes ugh
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