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Oliver Schulz

ESD unemployment benefits while abroad with work authorization - stuck in adjudication

I'm currently in a complicated situation with my Washington unemployment claim and hoping someone has experience with this specific scenario. I'm a dual citizen (US/Australia) and was working for a Seattle tech company remotely while temporarily visiting family in Australia. Last month, my company had massive layoffs and I was one of the casualties. Since I already had accommodation set up in Australia and have full work rights here, I decided to stay longer while job hunting. According to ESD's rules on their website (https://esd.wa.gov/newsroom/ui-rule-making/out-of-country), it seems I should be eligible for benefits while in Australia because: 1) I'm legally authorized to work in Australia (citizenship) 2) I'm immediately available for work in the US (can relocate within 2 weeks if needed) I filed my claim honestly, reporting my location. Everything seemed fine initially, but yesterday I got an email saying they detected I was out of the country (probably from my IP address) and needed additional information. I answered all their questions truthfully about my situation and travel dates. Now my claim shows "adjudication in progress" and I'm worried. Has anyone successfully collected benefits while abroad with work authorization in that country? How long did adjudication take? And did you eventually get approved? I've been applying for jobs both in the US and Australia, documenting everything for my weekly claims. Just anxious about whether I misunderstood the rules or if this lengthy adjudication is normal. Any experiences or insights would be appreciated!

I went through something kinda similar last year when I got laid off while visiting my parents in Canada (I have dual citizenship). My claim also went to adjudication when they noticed I was filing from outside the US. The adjudication took about 5 weeks for me, which was stressful. They eventually approved my claim but only after I had two phone interviews with an adjudicator who asked a LOT of questions about my work authorization, my plans to return, and proof I was actively looking for work in Washington. Based on that rule you quoted, you should be eligible, but they're really strict about verifying everything. Make sure you have documentation of your dual citizenship and keep detailed records of your job search activities. You might want to focus more on US-based jobs during this time to strengthen your case.

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Oliver Schulz

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5 weeks?! That's going to be rough financially but at least it's good to hear they eventually approved yours. Did they backpay for all the weeks during adjudication? I'll definitely focus more on the US job applications for now. Did they specifically ask for proof of your citizenship/work authorization in the other country, or just your plans to return?

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The rule you're referring to is fairly new (implemented in 2023), so many ESD employees aren't fully trained on it yet. This is exactly why your claim is in adjudication - they need to verify you meet all three criteria in subsection 3. I recommend uploading documentation through your eServices account showing: 1. Proof of your work authorization in Australia (passport, visa, etc.) 2. A statement explaining your immediate availability for US work 3. Documentation of your job search activities in BOTH countries Adjudication for out-of-country issues typically takes 4-6 weeks currently. Make sure you continue filing your weekly claims during this time. If approved, you'll receive all back payments at once.

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Oliver Schulz

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Thank you so much for the detailed information! I hadn't thought about proactively uploading documentation - I was just waiting for them to request it. I'll upload my Australian passport and a written statement about my availability for US work today. Really appreciate the advice about continuing weekly claims too - I wasn't sure if I should keep filing while in adjudication.

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Your probably wasting your time. My brother tried getting benefits while in Mexico (he has dual citizenship) and they denied him after 2 months in adjucation. Said something about not being able to verify his availabilty for work despite him having work rights in Mexico. ESD is just looking for any reason to deny claims these days.

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Emma Wilson

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That's not entirely accurate. The rules changed in 2023 specifically to allow benefits while abroad in certain circumstances. Your brother's situation might have been before the rule change, or there could have been other disqualifying factors. Each case is different - I've seen several approvals for claimants outside the US who meet the specific criteria.

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Malik Davis

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I was stuck in adjudication for almost 2 months with a similar situation (working remotely from Canada with dual citizenship when laid off). The most frustrating part was trying to talk to a real person at ESD to explain my situation. I tried calling literally 30+ times and either got disconnected or was told the wait was over 4 hours. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to connect with an ESD agent after weeks of frustration. They have a service that holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is available. I was skeptical but watched their demo video (https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3) and decided to try it. Got connected with an ESD specialist who actually helped move my adjudication forward and explained exactly what documentation I needed to upload. Might be worth trying if you're stuck waiting for weeks like I was.

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Oliver Schulz

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Thanks for the tip! I've already tried calling ESD three times with no luck (disconnected every time). I'll check out that service if I don't see movement in the next week or so. Did your claim eventually get approved after you spoke with the agent?

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Malik Davis

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Yes, it got approved about 10 days after I spoke with the agent and uploaded the documentation they requested. The key was getting specific instructions about what they needed to see rather than guessing. They backpaid all the weeks I had claimed during adjudication too.

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Let me clarify something important about the rule you referenced: The key part that often causes confusion is that you must meet the requirements of BOTH subsections (1) and (2) OF THAT RULE, plus one of the three conditions in subsection (3). Many claimants miss this. Subsections (1) and (2) relate to being able and available for suitable work and actively seeking work. This means: - You must be able to work (no limitations preventing employment) - You must be available for suitable work (can accept job offers) - You must be actively seeking work (completing and documenting 3+ job search activities weekly) Then, for subsection (3), you seem to meet condition (a) by having work authorization in Australia. The adjudicator will verify all these conditions. Keep detailed records of all job search activities, be responsive to any requests for information, and continue filing weekly claims while in adjudication. If approved, all eligible weeks will be paid retroactively.

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Oliver Schulz

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Thank you for breaking this down so clearly! I've been doing 4-5 job search activities per week (mix of applications and networking) and documenting everything in my activity log. I'm definitely able and available to work, and could start remote work immediately or relocate back to the US within 2 weeks if needed for an in-person position. Sounds like I'm meeting the requirements, but I'll make sure to be extra detailed in my documentation going forward.

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Ravi Gupta

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not to be that person but doesnt australia have its own unemployment system?? why are u trying to collect from washington when ur living in a different country? seems kinda sketchy tbh

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Emma Wilson

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This is a common misconception. Unemployment benefits are based on where you worked and paid unemployment insurance taxes, not where you're currently located. The OP worked for a Washington employer who paid into Washington's unemployment insurance system. Australia's unemployment system wouldn't cover them because they didn't work for an Australian employer or pay into that system.

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Oliver Schulz

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I understand why it might seem that way! But as the other commenter explained, I worked for a Washington company that paid unemployment insurance for me in Washington state. I paid Washington taxes on all my income. I'm not eligible for Australian benefits since I never worked for an Australian company. The ESD rules specifically address situations like mine where people have legal work authorization in multiple countries.

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Just wanted to update that i finally got through to someone at ESD today and asked about processing times for adjudication on out-of-country claims. They said they're currently running about 6-8 weeks for these specific types of issues because they require specialist adjudicators who understand the international aspects. So you might be in for a longer wait than the typical adjudication unfortunately :

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Oliver Schulz

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That's really helpful info, thanks for the update! Definitely helps set my expectations. I guess I'll need to figure out how to manage financially for a couple months while waiting. Did they mention if there's any way to expedite the process?

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They said the only way to potentially speed things up is if you can prove financial hardship (like eviction notice or utility shutoff). In that case they can flag it as urgent, but even then it might only reduce the wait by a week or two. Really frustrating system.

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Mateo Warren

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I'm going through something very similar right now! I was laid off from my Portland-based job while visiting my partner's family in Germany (I have an EU work permit). Filed my claim about 3 weeks ago and it immediately went into adjudication when they detected my location. The waiting is incredibly stressful, especially when you're dealing with the financial impact of job loss. I've been keeping meticulous records of my job search activities and uploaded documentation of my German work authorization proactively based on advice I found in forums like this. One thing that's helped me is setting up job alerts for both US remote positions and local opportunities here. I figure if I can show I'm genuinely available for work in either location, it strengthens my case. Has anyone had experience with how ESD handles situations where you might actually find work in the country you're visiting before your claim is resolved? I'm wondering if that would complicate things or if they'd just close the claim normally. Hoping we both get good news soon - this limbo is exhausting!

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Freya Larsen

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I'm in a very similar boat - laid off while abroad with dual citizenship and stuck in adjudication for about 3 weeks now. The waiting really is exhausting, especially when you're already dealing with job loss stress! Regarding your question about finding work while your claim is being adjudicated - from what I understand, if you find employment (whether in the US or abroad), you'd just report it on your weekly claim like normal and the claim would close. I don't think it would complicate the adjudication process since you'd no longer be claiming benefits. I've also been applying to both US remote positions and local opportunities here in Australia. It sounds like we're both taking the right approach by documenting everything thoroughly. Have you tried uploading additional documentation proactively? A few people in this thread mentioned that helped move their cases along. Fingers crossed we both hear something positive soon. This financial uncertainty while waiting is really tough to manage!

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Aisha Khan

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I'm also dealing with a similar international unemployment situation right now! Got laid off from my Seattle-based remote job while visiting family in the UK (I have British citizenship through my parents). Filed my claim about 4 weeks ago and it's been in adjudication ever since. What's been most helpful for me is staying super organized with documentation. I created a folder with my British passport, a detailed letter explaining my work authorization and availability for US employment, screenshots of job applications to both US and UK companies, and even flight search results showing I could return to the US within 48 hours if needed for an in-person interview. The financial stress during this waiting period is brutal, but I keep reminding myself that the 2023 rule change was specifically designed to help people in situations like ours. I've been focusing heavily on US remote job applications since that seems to be what ESD wants to see for "availability" purposes. One thing I learned from calling the general ESD line (after many attempts) is that they can see when you upload documents to your account, and it does get flagged for the adjudicator. So definitely keep adding anything that supports your case! Hang in there - sounds like you're doing everything right and the rule should be on your side. This process is just painfully slow unfortunately.

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Freya Thomsen

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This is such great advice about staying organized with documentation! I love the idea of including flight search results to show immediate availability - that's really smart proof of being able to return quickly for interviews. I'm going to add that to my documentation folder along with some screenshots showing remote job applications. It's reassuring to hear from someone else who's been waiting 4 weeks and staying positive about the 2023 rule change. The financial stress really is the worst part of this whole process, especially when you're already dealing with job loss. Did you find that uploading additional documents after your initial filing seemed to make any difference in processing time, or is it too early to tell? I'm wondering if I should keep adding things or if there's a point where too much documentation might actually slow things down. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to know others are going through the same thing and taking similar approaches!

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Muhammad Hobbs

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! Got laid off from my remote job at a Vancouver, WA company while visiting my girlfriend's family in Japan (I have a Japanese work visa). Filed my claim about 2 weeks ago and it went straight into adjudication when they detected my overseas IP address. The uncertainty is really getting to me, especially reading about 6-8 week wait times. I've been religiously documenting my job search activities and uploaded my work visa documentation, but the financial stress while waiting is intense. What's interesting is that I've actually had more interview opportunities applying to US-based remote positions than I did when I was physically in Washington. Makes me feel more confident about proving my "availability" for US work, even from abroad. I've been following this thread closely and really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. It's comforting to know I'm not alone in this situation, even though the waiting game is brutal. The 2023 rule change gives me hope, but man, the processing times are rough when you're already dealing with job loss stress. Keep us posted on how your case progresses - I think we're all rooting for each other here!

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Chloe Mitchell

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm in a nearly identical situation - got laid off from my tech job in Bellevue while visiting family in Canada (I have dual citizenship). Filed about 10 days ago and immediately went into adjudication when they detected my location. The financial anxiety while waiting is really overwhelming, especially when you're already processing job loss. But reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful and reassuring that I'm not alone in this. I've also noticed I'm getting more remote interview opportunities than I expected, which definitely helps with proving availability for US work. I'm keeping detailed records of everything and have uploaded my Canadian passport and work authorization docs. Thanks to everyone sharing their timelines and advice - it's giving me hope that the 2023 rule changes will work in our favor, even if the wait is brutal. Definitely keeping my fingers crossed for all of us dealing with this situation!

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