ESD sent partial refund of overpayment I repaid - Do they refund interest first?
Super confused right now... I checked my bank account today and noticed ESD deposited $637 out of the $2,150 overpayment I had paid back to them over the last few months. I thought maybe I was getting my whole refund in installments, but then I wondered if they're refunding the interest portion first before the principal amount? Has anyone dealt with partial overpayment refunds before? It's impossible to reach a human at ESD - I've called 16 times in the past two days and either get disconnected or stuck on hold until the system hangs up on me. I need this money for rent next month so trying to understand what's happening and when I might get the rest.
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Ellie Perry
same thing happened 2 me last year!! they did a partial refund first then the rest came like 3 weeks later. no explanation, just random deposits. ESD does whatever they want lol
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Mohamed Anderson
•Thanks for the info. Did you have to do anything to get the rest of your refund or it just showed up automatically after those 3 weeks?
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Landon Morgan
The overpayment refund system is so messed up. I had a similar situation where they determined I was eligible after I'd already paid back an overpayment. I got refunded in THREE separate deposits over about 45 days. No rhyme or reason to the amounts either! One was like 30% of the total, then 45%, then the remaining 25%. NOBODY could explain why. So frustrating.
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Teresa Boyd
•Did they at least send you notices explaining the deposits? I got a random deposit once and had to call for 2 weeks to figure out what it was for!
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Landon Morgan
•Nope! Not a single notice. Just random money appearing in my account with "WA ST ESD UNEMP" in the transaction description. Real professional operation they're running over there.
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Lourdes Fox
ESD doesn't typically refund just the interest first - they're required to apply payments first to interest and penalties, then to the principal amount. So your partial refund is more likely the first installment of your total refund. What probably happened is that they determined you were eligible for some or all of the weeks they previously said you weren't eligible for. This triggers their refund process, which can come in installments depending on how they're processing your case. You should eventually receive a letter explaining the refund calculation, but it will likely arrive after the deposits have been made. If the remaining balance doesn't arrive within 2-3 weeks, you'll need to contact them.
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Mohamed Anderson
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! That makes sense about them applying payments to interest first, which is why I thought maybe they were refunding in reverse order. I'll wait a few weeks before panicking about the rest.
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Bruno Simmons
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Mohamed Anderson
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Ellie Perry
•is that thing legit? seems sketchy to use a third party service to reach a govt agency...
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Bruno Simmons
•It's legit - they just help you get through the phone system. You still talk directly to ESD, they just help with the connection part. Worked great for me when I was desperate after trying for days.
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Aileen Rodriguez
To directly address your question: No, ESD does not refund interest separately from principal amounts. Here's what typically happens with overpayment refunds when they determine you were actually eligible: 1. They reprocess your claim and determine you were eligible for some/all weeks 2. Their system generates refund payments (can be in multiple parts) 3. The first refund often arrives before any notification letter 4. Remaining amounts typically process within 2-6 weeks Their accounting system dates back to the 1980s (seriously) which is why refunds often come in strange increments rather than logical divisions. If you received exactly 29.6% of your total, that's actually a common first refund amount I've seen in many cases - it's related to how their batching system works.
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Lourdes Fox
•This is correct. The 29-30% initial payment is very common due to how their legacy system processes claims. The system actually tags overpayment refunds as a special type of payment that gets processed in a specific sequence.
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Zane Gray
Wait I'm confused - why are you getting a refund of an overpayment? Aren't overpayments when YOU owe THEM money? I got an overpayment notice last month and they said I have to pay them back $4300!!! Are you saying I might get some of that back??
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Overpayment refunds happen when: 1. ESD initially determines you were overpaid and demands repayment 2. You pay back the amount as required 3. Later, they reverse that decision (often after an appeal or further review) 4. They then refund the money you paid back If you just received an overpayment notice, you should either pay it or appeal it within the timeframe indicated. You only get a refund if you pay it and then they later reverse their decision.
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Zane Gray
•Oh god I think I messed up. I got the notice 6 weeks ago and have been ignoring it hoping it would go away. Does this mean they'll garnish my wages???
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Lourdes Fox
•You need to address the overpayment notice immediately. You have three options: 1. Pay it if it's correct 2. Appeal it if you believe it's incorrect (though you may have missed the appeal window) 3. Request a waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship If you ignore it, they can eventually garnish wages, take tax refunds, or add significant penalties. Call ESD right away to discuss your options, even if the initial appeal period has passed.
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Teresa Boyd
I work in finance (not for ESD) and can tell you that government refunds often come in weird chunks because of budget allocation processes. Different parts of your claim might be paid from different funding pots, especially if your claim crossed a fiscal quarter boundary or involved both state and federal funds. That's probably why you're seeing a partial refund with more to come.
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Mohamed Anderson
•That makes a lot of sense about the budget allocations! My claim did cross from December into January, so maybe that's related to why they're splitting it up. Thanks for the insight!
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Ellie Perry
anybody else notice ESD always seems to take FOREVER to give you YOUR money back but if THEY think you owe THEM they want it back like yesterday?? 🙄
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Landon Morgan
•YES! When I had an overpayment they sent me notices every 2 weeks and threatened collections after just 30 days. Then when they owed ME a refund it took 3 months and multiple phone calls! Complete double standard.
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Lourdes Fox
Update for everyone in this thread: ESD recently changed their overpayment refund process in January 2025. Previously, refunds over $1500 were automatically split into multiple payments for "system processing reasons." Under the new system, refunds should come as a single payment unless different weeks of eligibility are being processed separately. The OP's case sounds like it's still under the old system OR involves weeks being handled by different departments (regular UI vs. extended benefits, for example). For reference, the standard processing time for the remainder of split refunds is now officially 21 business days from the first payment, though it can be faster.
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Mohamed Anderson
•This is super helpful information! Today is actually the 10th business day since I got the first payment, so hopefully I'll see the rest soon based on that 21-day timeline. I'll update this thread when/if I get the remaining refund.
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