ESD claim using base year 7/1/22-6/30/23 but I worked until 12/26/23 - will this change?
I'm totally confused about this 'base year' thing on my ESD claim. I just got laid off on 12/26/23 when my company shut down, and I applied for unemployment today. I received an e-letter titled 'Your responsibilities as an employment claimant' stating 'Your claim is based on your work and earnings from 7/1/2022 to 6/30/23' and that this is an estimate until they reach out again. The thing is, I worked at two different places during this period: 1. Job #1: 6/17/22 to 10/29/22 (I resigned, never filed for benefits) 2. Job #2: 1/17/23 to 12/26/23 (company closed, I was let go) I'm confused why ESD is only counting 7/1/22 to 6/30/23 when I worked all the way through December 2023. Won't all those recent months of work count toward my benefit amount? Is this normal or will this change after their investigation? This is my first time filing for unemployment so I have no idea what's going on.
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Harper Thompson
This is completely normal! ESD uses what's called a 'base year' to calculate your benefits, which is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. Since you filed in December 2023, your base year is July 1, 2022 through June 30, 2023. The wages you earned during this period determine your weekly benefit amount. The wages you earned from July 2023 through December 2023 aren't part of your base year, but that doesn't mean they don't count at all. If you don't qualify for benefits based on your standard base year, ESD will automatically check if you qualify using an 'alternate base year' which would include your most recent completed quarter.
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Lucas Bey
•Thank you for explaining! So does that mean they might be using the wrong calculation right now? Since most of my work was from July through December 2023, shouldn't they be using the alternate base year? Or do they automatically check both?
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Caleb Stark
this is so dumb tbh!! the same exact thing happened 2 me last year n i lost like $200/week bcuz they wouldn't count my newer higher paying job!! apparently its some stupid law they have 2 follow. u should try calling them but GOOD LUCK getting thru lolol i spent 3 weeks trying
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Lucas Bey
•Seriously?? That's so frustrating! I was making way more at my recent job than I was last summer. So I might be getting a lot less in benefits than I should be? Great... 😓
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Jade O'Malley
To clarify some misinformation: ESD will automatically check if you qualify for regular UI under your standard base year first. If you do qualify (which it sounds like you might since you worked from January-June 2023), they'll use that calculation, even if using an alternate base year might result in a higher weekly benefit amount. The alternate base year is ONLY used if you don't qualify under the standard base year. This is set by Washington state law, not ESD policy. If you have enough hours/earnings in your standard base year to qualify (roughly 680 hours), then that's what they'll use. The reason is that wage data from the most recent quarters sometimes hasn't been fully reported by employers to the state yet, so using older data is more reliable and allows them to process claims faster.
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Lucas Bey
•That makes sense. So I won't be able to use those more recent months with higher wages to calculate my benefit amount as long as I qualify under the standard base year? That's disappointing but at least I understand the process now.
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Hunter Edmunds
when I applied last month they did the same thing to me!! But then after like 2 weeks they sent me another letter with updated info that included more of my work history. maybe wait and see if they update it?
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Lucas Bey
•Oh that's interesting! I'll definitely keep an eye out for any updates. Did your benefit amount change when they sent the updated letter?
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Hunter Edmunds
•yep! went up about $75 a week which was nice. they said something about 'wage investigation complete' on the new letter
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Ella Lewis
I had this EXACT issue last year when I got laid off! The real problem isn't just the lower benefit amount - it's getting through to ESD if you have questions or need to fix something. I spent TWO WEEKS trying to reach them by phone to see if they could use my alternate base year instead. After endless busy signals and disconnects, I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an ESD agent in under 30 minutes. Worth every penny when you're dealing with benefit calculation issues. Check their demo video to see how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 or their site claimyr.com. Saved me so much stress during an already stressful time.
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Lucas Bey
•Thank you for this recommendation! I've been trying to call them since yesterday with no luck. I'll definitely look into this service if I can't get through in the next couple days.
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Andrew Pinnock
Lol ya ESD and there stupid rules... I had 2 call them like 57 times before someone picked up last time! The whole system is rigged to pay us less imho. They always find sum way to cut corners.
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Harper Thompson
•The base year calculation is actually set by state law, not ESD policy. While it might seem unfair in some cases, it creates a consistent standard for everyone. The system isn't designed to pay less - it's designed to use verified wage data that employers have already reported to the state. The most recent quarters sometimes haven't been fully reported yet.
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Brianna Schmidt
My uncle works for ESD and he told me they always use the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters. It's just how the system works. Also, make sure you're doing your job search activities every week (3 per week) or they'll deny your benefits.
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Lucas Bey
•Thanks for the reminder about job search activities! I'm already looking but I'll make sure to document everything properly.
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Jade O'Malley
One more important thing to understand: After your claim is processed and investigated, you'll receive a "Monetary Determination" letter that shows exactly which wages were counted from which quarters, and how your weekly benefit amount was calculated. This usually takes 2-3 weeks. If you notice any wages missing from the determination that should be in your base year (7/1/22-6/30/23), you can request a redetermination. But they won't include wages outside your base year unless you don't qualify at all under the standard base year calculation. Just make sure to keep filing your weekly claims while waiting for the final determination. Your first payment won't process until the investigation is complete, but you'll get paid retroactively for all weeks you've properly claimed.
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Lucas Bey
•This is really helpful information. I'll keep an eye out for that Monetary Determination letter and make sure to continue filing weekly claims. Hopefully my wages from January to June 2023 will be enough to qualify for a decent benefit amount. Thanks again for explaining all this!
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