ESD appeal going to OAH hearing vs adjudication - what to expect?
Just received notification that my unemployment denial is under review but I'm totally confused about whether it'll stay with ESD for adjudication or get sent to OAH for a hearing. My benefits were denied because my former employer claimed I was terminated for misconduct (which is absolutely NOT true). I submitted my appeal documents 3 weeks ago explaining the real situation, but haven't heard anything since except a vague status update email saying "appeal processing in progress." Has anyone dealt with this limbo stage between ESD adjudication and OAH hearings? Do they notify you before scheduling a hearing? I'm stressing about possibly missing important communications while this drags on. Any advice on preparing either way would be so helpful!
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GalacticGuru
Based on my experience last year, ESD will first try to resolve the appeal through their own adjudication process. They review both your statement and your employer's evidence. If they can make a determination based on that, they'll issue a redetermination without involving OAH. If they need more testimony or find the case more complex, they'll transfer it to OAH for a hearing. You'll definitely receive notification if it goes to OAH - they'll send both an email and physical mail with the hearing date and instructions. Usually, they give at least 10 days' notice. Make sure your contact info is updated in both your ESD and SAW accounts. In the meantime, keep filing your weekly claims even though you're not getting paid. This is CRUCIAL because if you win your appeal, they can only pay for weeks you've claimed.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Thank you so much for explaining! That makes sense about the two possible paths. I'll double check all my contact info right away. And thanks for the reminder about weekly claims - I almost stopped filing them last week thinking it was pointless while waiting.
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Amara Nnamani
i had this happen to me took like 5 weeks before they finaly sent it to OAH. the waiting is the worst part for sure!!! Keep an eye on your junk mail folder to i almost missed my hearing notice once
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Liam Fitzgerald
•5 weeks? Ugh, that's really frustrating. I'm only at week 3 so sounds like I might have more waiting ahead. Good tip about checking junk mail - I'll start checking it daily.
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Giovanni Mancini
Just to build on what others have said, the determination of whether your appeal stays with ESD or goes to OAH depends on a few factors: 1. Complexity of your case (straightforward facts vs. conflicting evidence) 2. Your employer's response (if they dispute your appeal vigorously) 3. Current ESD workload and backlog For misconduct cases specifically, many end up at OAH because they often involve disputed facts between you and the employer. If your case goes to OAH, you'll want to prepare thoroughly. Gather any evidence that counters the misconduct claim - email communications, performance reviews, witness statements, company policies, etc. The burden of proof for misconduct is on the employer, but you need to be ready to present your side clearly. In my experience, OAH hearings are fairly formal but the judges are good at guiding you through the process. You'll testify under oath and can question your employer's statements.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•OAH JUDGES ARE BIAS!!!! my freind had hearing and judge only listened to employer even tho he had proof they were lying about him!!
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Dylan Cooper
When my misconduct case went to adjudication, it took about 6 weeks before I heard anything. Then I got a call from an adjudicator who asked me a bunch of questions about what happened. Two days after that call, they reversed the denial and approved my benefits without an OAH hearing. So sometimes it can work out through ESD's process! The most frustrating part was definitely the waiting and uncertainty. I kept checking my online account every day hoping for updates.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•That's encouraging to hear! I'd much prefer to avoid a formal hearing if possible. Did you do anything special to help your case with the adjudicator? I'm worried because my former employer is pretty vindictive and will probably fight this hard.
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Sofia Morales
I tried calling ESD repeatedly when my appeal was stuck in the same limbo stage and could NEVER get through. Busy signals or disconnects every single time. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get connected to an actual ESD agent who checked on my appeal status and told me it was going to OAH. Saved me weeks of uncertainty! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Knowing what was happening with my claim made a huge difference in my stress levels, even though I still had to wait for the hearing.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I've been having the same problem with calling! I'll definitely check out that service - at this point I'd pay anything just to know what's happening with my claim.
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StarSailor
In my experience, misconduct cases USUALLY end up going to OAH rather than being resolved through ESD adjudication. Mine did last winter. The hearing was actually less intimidating than I expected. The judge was fair and asked good questions that helped me explain my side. If you do get a hearing date, make sure you're super prepared. Organize your thoughts ahead of time about exactly what happened with your termination. Be ready to explain: - Exactly what led to your termination - Why it wasn't misconduct (very important) - Any company policies that weren't followed in your termination - Any witnesses or documentation supporting your side Stay calm and stick to facts during the hearing. I got emotional during mine and it didn't help my case.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•they claim EVERYTHING is misconduct these days!! its so unfair!!!!
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Giovanni Mancini
One more important tip: If your case does go to OAH, you'll receive a packet of evidence that your employer submitted. Review this CAREFULLY before your hearing. Note any inconsistencies or factual errors in their statements. Prepare specific rebuttals to their claims. Also be aware that misconduct in unemployment terms has a specific legal definition - it's not just any reason an employer might fire someone. For UI purposes, misconduct typically means intentional disregard of the employer's interests, repeated violations after warnings, or deliberate violations of known policies. Simple mistakes, poor performance, or personality conflicts usually DON'T count as misconduct. Make sure you understand this distinction and focus your appeal on why your situation doesn't meet the legal standard for misconduct.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•This is extremely helpful information! I didn't realize misconduct had such a specific definition for unemployment purposes. My termination was definitely more about a personality conflict with a new manager than any actual policy violations. I'll make sure to emphasize that if I get a hearing.
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Amara Nnamani
btw make sure u call oah if u havent heard anything in like 6 weeks... my friend never got her notice cuz they had wrong address and missed her hearing completely!! had to request a new one and wait another month!! total nightmare!!
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Dmitry Ivanov
•this happened to me to! wasnt even my fault and had to wait another 2 months for new hearing date while bills piled up
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GalacticGuru
Good news - misconduct cases have a fairly high rate of being overturned on appeal, especially if the employer doesn't show up to the hearing or doesn't have solid documentation. Just be honest, stick to relevant facts, and don't get baited into arguments or emotional responses if your case goes to hearing. In the meantime, I strongly recommend starting to document everything now. Write down a detailed timeline of events leading to your termination while it's fresh in your mind. Gather any emails, texts, or documents that support your position. If you know coworkers who witnessed relevant events, ask if they'd be willing to provide statements (though they're not obligated to). Also, keep a log of all communication with ESD about your appeal - dates, times, what was discussed. This can be helpful if there are any procedural issues later.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Thank you! I've been saving emails but hadn't thought to create a detailed timeline. I'll start working on that tonight while everything is still clear in my memory.
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