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Can you get Washington ESD unemployment benefits if you get terminated from your job?

I just got fired from my warehouse job last week and I'm not sure if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My supervisor said I was terminated for attendance issues but I had legitimate reasons for most of my absences (sick kid, car trouble). Does Washington ESD approve unemployment claims when you get terminated? I've never filed for UI before and I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills next month.

Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you were terminated, but it depends on the specific reason. Washington ESD will determine if you were fired for 'misconduct' or for reasons beyond your control. Attendance issues can be tricky - if you had valid reasons and followed company policy for reporting absences, you might still qualify.

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That's a relief to hear. I did follow the call-in policy most of the time. Should I mention the specific reasons for my absences when I file my claim?

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Absolutely mention them in your initial claim. Be honest and detailed about your circumstances. Washington ESD will likely contact your employer for their side of the story too.

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File your claim ASAP! Don't wait thinking you might not qualify. Let Washington ESD make that determination. The worst they can do is deny it, but if you don't apply at all you definitely won't get benefits. I was terminated from my last job and still got approved after they reviewed everything.

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Good point, I'll file today. How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?

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Mine took about 2 weeks for the initial determination, but some people wait longer if there's an investigation into the termination circumstances.

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Just so you know, if your employer contests your claim (which they probably will), your case might go into adjudication. This means Washington ESD will investigate both sides before making a decision. I've been trying to get through to them for weeks about my adjudication case - their phone system is impossible.

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Oh no, that sounds frustrating. Is there any way to speed up the adjudication process or get updates?

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It's legit - they basically handle the calling and waiting for you so you don't have to sit on hold for hours. Way better than trying to call Washington ESD yourself and getting hung up on.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!! I got terminated for supposedly violating safety rules but it was total BS and Washington ESD still denied my claim. They always side with the employers because they're all in cahoots together. You're probably wasting your time.

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That's not always true. Many people do get approved for benefits after termination. It really depends on the specific circumstances and whether there was actual misconduct.

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Easy for you to say! I fought my case for months and got nowhere. The whole unemployment system is designed to deny as many claims as possible.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm going to file my claim today and see what happens. Keeping my fingers crossed that Washington ESD sees my side of things.

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Good luck! Make sure you keep documenting everything and save any text messages or emails about your absences.

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Just be prepared that if your employer fights it, the process can take a while. I was terminated last year and it took almost 6 weeks to get my first payment because of all the back and forth. But I did eventually get approved and they paid me retroactively.

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6 weeks?? How did you survive that long without income?

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Had to borrow money from family and use credit cards. It was rough but the retroactive payment helped catch up on bills.

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For anyone reading this thread later - here are the key things Washington ESD looks at for termination cases: 1) Was it willful misconduct? 2) Did you violate a known company policy? 3) Were you given warnings? 4) Did you have a reasonable explanation for your actions? Document everything you can remember about your employment situation.

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This is super helpful info. Wish I had known this when I got fired last month.

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It's never too late to file an appeal if you were denied and think the decision was wrong. You have 30 days from the determination letter.

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same thing happened to me but with tardiness instead of absences. still got approved after they reviewed everything so don't give up hope

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That's encouraging! How long did the review process take for you?

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about 3 weeks total from filing to getting my first payment

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I used to work in HR and can tell you that most companies will contest unemployment claims even if they don't have a strong case. It's just automatic for them because it affects their unemployment tax rate. Don't take it personally if they fight your claim - that's just how the system works.

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That's good to know. I was wondering if my employer contesting meant they had a really strong case against me.

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Not necessarily. They're just protecting their interests. Washington ESD will make an independent decision based on all the facts.

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Make sure you're actively looking for work while your claim is being processed! Washington ESD requires job search activities even during adjudication. Keep track of everything in your job search log on the website.

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Good reminder! How many job contacts do you need per week in Washington?

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It's usually 3 job search activities per week, but check your specific requirements on your Washington ESD account. Some people have different requirements based on their situation.

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The waiting period is the worst part. I remember checking my account constantly to see if there were any updates on my claim status. Try to stay patient and don't call Washington ESD every day asking for updates - it won't speed things up.

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Actually, sometimes calling does help if your case is taking longer than usual. I called after 4 weeks and found out my case was sitting on someone's desk because they needed additional documentation from me.

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True, but calling every few days like I did was probably overkill. Once a week is probably more reasonable.

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Quick question - if you get approved for benefits after being terminated, do you still have to do the waiting week before payments start?

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Washington eliminated the waiting week requirement a few years ago, so you should get paid for your first eligible week if approved.

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Oh that's great news! I remember having to wait an extra week when I filed years ago.

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Document EVERYTHING about your termination while it's fresh in your memory. Write down dates, times, who was present for conversations, any witnesses to incidents. If this goes to a hearing, you'll need all these details.

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Good advice! I'm going to write everything down tonight while I can still remember clearly.

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I got terminated for allegedly stealing but it was completely false. Washington ESD still approved my claim because there was no real evidence and my employer couldn't prove misconduct. Sometimes employers make stuff up to avoid paying higher unemployment taxes.

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Wow, that's scary that they would make false accusations. Glad you got approved in the end though.

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Yeah it was stressful but I had a clean employment record and character witnesses. Washington ESD investigators are pretty thorough when there are serious allegations.

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Has anyone here ever had to go to an actual hearing for their unemployment case? I'm worried that's where this is heading for me.

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I had a phone hearing for my case. It was actually less scary than I thought. Just be honest and stick to the facts. The judge will ask questions to both you and your employer.

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Thanks, that makes me feel a bit better about the possibility.

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Claimyr helped me get through to Washington ESD when I couldn't reach anyone about my terminated claim status. Definitely worth checking out if you need to talk to someone and can't get through the normal phone lines.

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Several people have mentioned this service now. Might be worth trying if I run into problems getting information about my claim.

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Update us on how it goes! I'm sure other people in similar situations would want to know the outcome of your case.

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Will do! I'll post an update once I hear back from Washington ESD about my determination.

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The key thing to remember is that being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits. Washington ESD has to determine if it was for misconduct or just because you weren't a good fit for the job. Attendance issues without deliberate violation of policy often don't count as misconduct.

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That's reassuring. I really did try to follow the attendance policy as best I could given my circumstances.

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Exactly - Washington ESD will consider whether you made good faith efforts to comply with company policies. Having legitimate reasons for absences definitely helps your case.

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One more thing - make sure you file your weekly claims even while your initial claim is being adjudicated. You won't get paid until it's resolved, but you need to keep filing to maintain your claim.

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Good to know! I was wondering about that. So I should file weekly claims starting this week even though I haven't heard back about my initial application?

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Yes, exactly. Keep filing every week or you might miss out on benefits for those weeks even if you get approved later.

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