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Manny Lark

Can you collect unemployment on a voluntary layoff in Washington ESD?

My company offered voluntary layoffs to avoid doing mandatory ones, and I took it since I've been wanting to make a career change anyway. But now I'm wondering if I can actually file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD since it was technically voluntary? I know they ask about why you left your job on the application. Has anyone been in this situation before? I don't want to file and then get hit with fraud charges or have to pay everything back.

You should be eligible! Voluntary layoffs are usually treated the same as regular layoffs by Washington ESD as long as your employer initiated the offer due to business reasons. The key is that you didn't just quit - they offered it because they needed to reduce staff.

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That's a relief to hear. Do I need any special documentation from my employer to prove it was their voluntary layoff program?

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Yes, get a letter from HR explaining the voluntary layoff program and that it was offered due to business needs. Keep all emails about the program too.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Filed my claim and had no issues getting approved. Washington ESD understands the difference between quitting and accepting a voluntary layoff offer.

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How long did it take for your claim to get processed? I keep hearing horror stories about adjudication taking forever.

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Mine was pretty straightforward, took about 2 weeks. But I had good documentation from my employer explaining the layoff program.

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The Washington ESD looks at whether you had good cause to leave. Accepting a voluntary layoff is considered good cause since your employer offered it for business reasons. Just be honest on your application about the circumstances.

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What if they ask why you chose to take the voluntary layoff instead of staying? Would mentioning wanting a career change hurt your case?

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Focus on the fact that your employer offered it due to their business needs. Your personal reasons for accepting are secondary to the fact that they initiated the program.

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Thanks for the tip! I might need that since I tried calling yesterday and couldn't get through to anyone.

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Never heard of that service but sounds useful. The Washington ESD phone lines are impossible to get through.

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wait so if your company offers voluntary layoffs you can still get unemployment?? I thought you had to be fired or laid off against your will to qualify

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Common misconception! The key is WHO initiated the separation. If your employer offers voluntary layoffs due to business needs, you're still eligible.

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wow that's good to know. my company has been talking about possible layoffs so maybe I should look into their voluntary program

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Make sure you understand the difference between voluntary layoff and voluntary resignation. Voluntary layoff = employer offers it, you accept. Voluntary resignation = you quit on your own. Big difference for UI eligibility.

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Yes, in my case the company sent out an email asking for volunteers to be laid off to avoid mandatory layoffs. So it was definitely their initiative.

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That sounds like a legitimate voluntary layoff program. You should be fine filing for benefits.

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I'm going through adjudication right now for this exact situation. Been waiting 3 weeks for them to make a decision. It's frustrating because it seems pretty straightforward to me.

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3 weeks?? That's terrible. Have you been able to talk to anyone at Washington ESD about the delay?

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Nope, can't get through on the phone. Might try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Definitely try Claimyr if you can't reach them directly. It really works for getting through to actual Washington ESD agents.

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The Washington ESD website has information about this under their eligibility requirements. Look for the section on 'good cause' separations. Voluntary layoffs are specifically mentioned.

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I'll check that out. I was looking at their site earlier but couldn't find the specific information about voluntary layoffs.

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It's buried in there pretty deep. Search for 'voluntary layoff' or 'reduction in force' and you should find it.

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Just file your claim and be honest about the circumstances. If Washington ESD needs more information, they'll ask for it during adjudication. Don't overthink it.

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You're probably right. I'm just worried about making a mistake and getting in trouble later.

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As long as you're truthful on your application, you won't get in trouble. They investigate fraud, not honest mistakes.

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I work in HR and we've had several employees successfully collect UI after accepting voluntary layoffs. The key is proper documentation of the program and business justification.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone on the employer side. What kind of documentation do you typically provide?

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We provide a letter explaining the voluntary layoff program, the business reasons for it, and confirming the employee's participation was voluntary but employer-initiated.

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Don't forget you'll still need to meet all the other UI requirements like job searching and being available for work. The voluntary layoff just covers the separation requirement.

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Good point. I need to register with WorkSource Washington too, right?

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Yes, and you'll need to do your job search activities and report them on your weekly claims. Same requirements as any other UI claimant.

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ugh the Washington ESD system is so confusing. I never know if I'm going to qualify or not until they make their decision

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It can be confusing but voluntary layoffs are pretty well established as qualifying separations. Don't stress too much about it.

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I guess you're right. I just hear so many stories about people getting denied for weird reasons

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The important thing is that your employer offered the voluntary layoff due to economic reasons or business needs, not because of your performance or misconduct. That's what makes it eligible.

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Yes, it was definitely for business reasons. They said they needed to reduce headcount to cut costs.

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Perfect, that's exactly what Washington ESD looks for. You should have no problem qualifying.

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If you do run into issues during adjudication, don't panic. You can always appeal their decision if they deny you. I had to do that once and won my appeal.

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How long does the appeal process take? I'm hoping it doesn't come to that but good to know it's an option.

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My appeal took about 6 weeks from start to finish. Not fun but worth it if you know you're eligible.

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I think the confusion comes from people mixing up voluntary layoffs with just quitting. They're totally different things in the eyes of Washington ESD.

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Exactly! I want to make sure they understand this was my employer's program, not me just deciding to quit.

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As long as you have documentation showing it was an employer-initiated program, you'll be fine.

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My brother went through this same thing and got approved without any issues. He also used Claimyr to talk to someone at Washington ESD when he had questions about his claim status.

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Good to hear another success story. I'm feeling more confident about filing now.

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Yeah, he said the Claimyr service made it so much easier to actually reach someone instead of getting busy signals all day.

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Just make sure you file your claim as soon as possible after your last day of work. There's no waiting period but you want to get the process started.

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My last day is Friday so I'll file over the weekend. Thanks for the reminder!

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Perfect timing. And remember to keep applying for jobs even if you're planning a career change - that's part of the UI requirements.

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The fact that your company offered voluntary layoffs to avoid mandatory ones actually strengthens your case. Shows it was clearly business-driven, not performance-related.

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That's a good point I hadn't thought of. It definitely shows the company was trying to avoid having to do involuntary layoffs.

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Exactly. That context makes it very clear this was an employer-initiated separation for business reasons.

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One thing to remember is that if you do get approved, your benefit amount will be based on your earnings history, not the severance package from the voluntary layoff.

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Right, I figured the severance was separate from UI benefits. Good to confirm though.

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Yeah, they're completely separate. The severance might affect when your UI benefits start but not the amount.

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Overall sounds like you're in a good position to qualify. Just be thorough with your documentation and honest on your application. Washington ESD deals with voluntary layoffs all the time.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and reassurance. I feel much better about filing my claim now.

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You're welcome! Come back and update us on how it goes. Always good to hear success stories.

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I was in a similar situation a few months ago when my company offered voluntary buyouts. I was nervous about filing too, but it turned out to be straightforward. The key thing is that Washington ESD considers it a "lack of work" situation when your employer offers voluntary layoffs for business reasons. Make sure you save any emails or documents about the program - I kept everything from HR explaining why they were doing the voluntary layoffs and it helped during my phone interview with ESD. The whole process took about 3 weeks for me and I had no issues getting approved. Good luck with your career change!

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