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Can my employer appeal my ESD benefits after I've already been receiving payments?

I got laid off from my warehouse job about 5 weeks ago and immediately applied for unemployment. ESD approved my claim pretty quickly and I've been getting weekly payments for the past 3 weeks with no issues. Yesterday, my former supervisor texted me saying they're planning to contest my unemployment claim because they think I was terminated for cause (which isn't true - they literally told me they were downsizing). How long does an employer have to fight back against my claim? Can they still challenge it even though I've already been receiving benefits for almost a month? I'm freaking out because I've already used this money for rent and bills. Would I have to pay everything back if they somehow win?

Jibriel Kohn

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yep they can still fight it. my boss did this to me last summer, i had been getting payments for like 6 weeks then suddenly got a notice about my employer appealing. pretty sure they have like 30 days from when ESD first contacts them but sometimes ESD is slow to notify them so it can be longer

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Joshua Hellan

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Oh no that's exactly what I was afraid of. Did you have to pay back all the money you already received?

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Your employer has 30 days from when they receive the ESD notice to file an appeal. However, employers sometimes don't check their ESD correspondence promptly, which can delay their response. Even after you've received benefits, your claim can still be challenged and potentially reversed. If your employer successfully appeals, ESD may determine you received benefits you weren't eligible for, creating an overpayment situation. You would be required to repay those funds, though you can request a waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship. Most importantly, document everything related to your layoff - emails, texts from your supervisor about downsizing, any paperwork. If it goes to an appeal hearing, having evidence that clearly shows you were laid off rather than fired for cause will be critical.

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Joshua Hellan

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Thanks for the detailed info. I saved the text where my boss said "unfortunately we need to reduce staff due to budget cuts" so hopefully that helps. Will ESD notify me if my employer does file an appeal?

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James Johnson

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Employers technically have 30 days after receiving notification from ESD to protest a claim. HOWEVER, if they miss that deadline but can show they had "good cause" for being late, ESD might still consider their protest. The protests can be filed after you start receiving benefits, and in fact, many employers don't respond until they see their unemployment tax rate might increase. If your employer wins their appeal, you'll get an overpayment notice and have to repay everything you've received, UNLESS you qualify for an overpayment waiver. The fact that your supervisor texted you about downsizing is EXCELLENT evidence - make sure you preserve that text!

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Mia Green

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not totally accurate. i went thru this last yr. if ur employer appeals and wins u DO have to pay everything back BUT u can get on a payment plan with ESD. i had to pay back almost $4000 and they let me do $100 a month. also there's a whole process for the appeal and u get to present YOUR side too so don't panic yet!!!

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Emma Bianchi

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This is why the ESD system is SO BROKEN!!! You did everything right and now they might make you pay everything back?? It's a JOKE. I've seen this happen to 3 different people. The whole system is designed to favor employers. And good luck trying to reach anyone at ESD to explain your situation 🙄 They'll have you on hold for 4 hours then disconnect you. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and if they try to make you repay, DEFINITELY file for a waiver and appeal!!

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i agree the system definitely favors employers but i do know someone who won their appeal against their employer. she had text evidence like OP does so that really helps. but yeah trying to get thru to ESD is literally impossible sometimes

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James Johnson

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To directly answer your question: Washington employers generally have 30 days from when ESD sends them the initial claim notice to protest. However, there are circumstances where this timeline can be extended. If your employer does file a protest and wins, you'd receive a letter from ESD saying you're disqualified and explaining the overpayment. You would have 30 days from that notice to file your own appeal of that decision. Since you have documentary evidence (the text message about downsizing), make sure to save it. In an appeal hearing, the burden of proof is on the employer to show misconduct if they're claiming you were fired for cause. Your text message directly contradicts that and shows you were laid off for business reasons, which should qualify you for benefits. I recommend being proactive - call ESD to check if a protest has been filed rather than waiting for a notice.

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Joshua Hellan

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'll try calling ESD tomorrow morning to see if anything has been filed yet. Hopefully the text message will be enough evidence if it does go to an appeal hearing.

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Mia Green

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Make SURE u save that text from ur boss about downsizing!!! Take screenshots and email them to yourself. When i had my appeal hearing last year the judge was super interested in any written proof. And YES they can definitely still fight it even after u got paid. Its super annoying but thats how it works

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Joshua Hellan

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I took screenshots already and I'm going to forward them to my email right now. Did you win your appeal? I'm getting really anxious about this whole situation.

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Jibriel Kohn

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if ur boss is just THREATENING to protest but hasn't actually done it yet, maybe try talking to them? sometimes they dont realize u can see texts saying it was a downsizing. might be worth calling them to point out that u have proof it wasnt for cause and see if theyll back off

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Joshua Hellan

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That's actually a really good idea. I was so stressed I didn't even think about just talking to them directly. I'll try reaching out tomorrow and see if they're willing to reconsider.

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Just to follow up on my earlier comment - if your employer does file an appeal and you receive a notice of overpayment, remember you have three options: 1. Pay the full amount 2. Request a payment plan 3. Request an overpayment waiver The waiver is important - ESD can waive repayment if it wasn't your fault AND it would cause financial hardship to repay. Based on what you've shared, you would have a strong case for a waiver if it comes to that. But first, focus on preparing for the possibility of an appeal hearing. With your text evidence showing you were laid off due to downsizing, you have a strong case.

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Great advice about the waiver option. I'd add that if it goes to an appeal hearing, OP should be prepared to explain exactly what happened during the separation from employment. Judges appreciate clear, chronological explanations with specific dates and events. And definitely mention that text message early in your testimony!

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