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Mei Chen

Can I get ESD unemployment as ex-military with no civilian job history since retirement?

Hey everyone, I'm in a confusing situation with unemployment and could really use some guidance. I honorably retired from the military about 18 months ago after serving since I was 18 (literally joined on my birthday). Since retiring, I haven't worked any civilian jobs at all. I never even considered unemployment benefits because I've been military my whole adult life and honestly had no clue how any of this works. Now I'm wondering - can I even apply for ESD unemployment benefits in this situation? What documents would I need to submit? And if I am eligible, could I possibly get benefits retroactively for the time since I retired? The whole ESD system seems completely foreign to me after being in the military structure for so long. Any advice from people who understand this system would be really appreciated.

Hi there! Former military myself. Unfortunately, I don't think you'll qualify for regular UI benefits at this point. ESD unemployment typically requires you to have worked in WA state during your "base year" (which is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file). With 18 months since your discharge, you probably don't have civilian wages in that timeframe. Also, retroactive benefits generally only go back to when you first apply, not when you first became unemployed - especially not 18 months back. You should definitely look into veterans benefits through the VA though! There are transition programs specifically for veterans that might help in your situation.

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Mei Chen

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Thanks for the quick response! That makes sense but is disappointing. I'll definitely look into the VA programs. Do you know if my DD-214 would be enough for any potential benefits or am I just completely out of luck with the whole ESD system?

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Amara Okonkwo

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Actually, military service CAN qualify for unemployment benefits through the UCX (Unemployment Compensation for Ex-servicemembers) program. You'll need your DD-214 Member Copy 4 showing honorable discharge. However, there are time limitations... For UCX claims, you typically need to file within 12 months after separating from military service to be eligible for the full benefit period. Since you're at 18 months, you may have missed that window, but it's still worth checking with ESD directly as some exceptions might apply. To clarify: military service counts as federal employment for unemployment purposes. The issue isn't that you didn't work in WA - it's the timing of your application that might be problematic.

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Mei Chen

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Wow, I had NO idea there was a specific program for ex-military! I'm kicking myself for not researching this sooner. Do you think there's any chance they'd make an exception for the 18 months timing since I simply didn't know about it? I'll definitely call ESD but I've heard it's nearly impossible to get through.

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Just wanted to add - I went thru something smilar when I got out of the Coast Guard. Even if your outside the ideal window, APPLY ANYWAY! The worst they can say is no but i've seen ESD make exceptions for veterans. Just be honest about why you didnt apply sooner (didn't know). Also the VA has other programs like Voc Rehab that might actually be BETTER for you then unemployment. Have you been to the local WorkSource office? They have veteran specialists!!!

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Mei Chen

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That's good to hear! I'll definitely apply and explain my situation. And no, I haven't been to WorkSource yet - didn't even know they had veteran specialists. Thanks for that tip, I'll check them out ASAP!

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If you're planning to call ESD to discuss your UCX eligibility, I'd recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com). It's a service that helps you get through to an ESD agent without the endless busy signals and disconnects. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 that explains how it works. I used it when I had questions about my own eligibility situation that couldn't be answered through the website. It saved me hours of frustration, and the agent I spoke with was able to review my specific circumstances and give me accurate information about my options. For something complex like a UCX claim outside the normal window, speaking directly with an agent is probably your best bet.

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Dylan Hughes

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Have you also applied for your VA benefits? Those are separate from unemployment and you should definitely be getting those if you served long enough to retire! There's also a transition assistance program through the VA that might help with employment - my brother used it when he got out in 2023 and they helped him find a good job using his military skills.

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Mei Chen

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Yes, I'm getting my VA benefits - that's been helping. But I was hoping for the extra support from unemployment while I finish up some education. The transition assistance is a good reminder though, I attended TAP before separating but honestly was overwhelmed with information at the time.

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NightOwl42

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Im confused about something - if you RETIRED from military doesn't that mean your getting retirement pay already? How can you get unemployment on top of retirement? Not trying to be rude just curious if thats allowed?

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Amara Okonkwo

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That's actually a good question. Military retirement pay doesn't disqualify someone from UCX benefits, but it may reduce the weekly benefit amount. ESD will calculate if there's any offset needed based on the retirement income. This is why speaking directly with ESD about the specific situation is important - they'll need to review all income sources to determine eligibility and benefit amounts.

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The whole system is RIDICULOUS. My cousin was Navy for 12 years and when he got out they made him jump through a million hoops just to get his unemployment. Had to prove he was looking for work CONSTANTLY even though the economy was terrible. And then they STILL messed up his payments multiple times!!! The way this state treats veterans is shameful!!!!! OP, if I were you I'd get a lawyer who specializes in veteran benefits to help with this. The ESD system is designed to DENY benefits not help people who need them!!!

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Mei Chen

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Sorry your cousin had such a rough experience. I'm hoping mine goes smoother, but it's good to be prepared for complications. I'm going to try working with the veteran specialists at WorkSource first before considering legal help, but will keep that option in mind if things get too complex.

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After reading all the advice here, I think your best course of action is: 1. Apply for UCX benefits through ESD right away, even though you're past the 12-month window 2. Use Claimyr to actually reach a human at ESD who can review your specific situation 3. Visit WorkSource and ask specifically for their veteran employment representative 4. Bring your DD-214 and any other military service documentation to both ESD and WorkSource 5. Be prepared to explain why you didn't apply sooner (legitimate lack of awareness) Even if you don't qualify for retroactive benefits, you might still be eligible going forward. And the veteran specialists at WorkSource can help connect you with other resources regardless of what happens with your UCX claim.

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Mei Chen

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Thank you so much for outlining these steps! This gives me a clear plan to follow. I'm going to start with the application today and then try to reach someone at ESD using Claimyr. Will definitely update on how it goes in case it helps other veterans in similar situations.

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