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Can I file for unemployment after 2 years gap - Washington ESD eligibility?

I haven't worked for about 2 years due to some personal issues and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits in Washington? I had a steady job before that gap and paid into the system for several years. Does Washington ESD have a time limit on when you can file after leaving work? I'm confused about the base period requirements and whether my old wages would still count. Any advice would be helpful.

Washington ESD uses your base period to determine eligibility, which is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. After 2 years, your old wages probably won't be in the current base period anymore. You need qualifying wages during that specific timeframe to be eligible.

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So basically my wages from 2 years ago won't count at all? That seems really unfair since I did pay into unemployment insurance.

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Unfortunately that's how the system works. The base period is designed to measure recent work history, not lifetime contributions.

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You also have to meet the work search requirements and be able and available for work. If you've been out of work for 2 years due to personal issues, Washington ESD might question whether you're actually able and available right now.

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I am ready to work now, that's why I'm looking into this. The personal issues are resolved.

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You'll need to prove that during the adjudication process if they question your availability.

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Had a similar situation last year. If you don't have qualifying wages in your base period, you're basically out of luck for regular UI benefits. You might want to check if there are any other assistance programs you qualify for instead.

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What other programs are you talking about? I really need some income while I job search.

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Look into DSHS programs, food assistance, maybe housing help depending on your situation. unemployment isn't the only safety net.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim issues and their phone system is absolutely terrible. If you do end up filing, good luck actually talking to anyone there. The wait times are insane and half the time they just hang up on you.

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They focus on just getting you connected, not the cost. Way better than spending all day redialing Washington ESD.

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Actually, let me clarify something important. Washington ESD will look at your base period wages, but they also have an alternate base period option. If you don't qualify under the standard base period, they'll automatically check the alternate base period which uses the last 4 completed quarters. Still might not help after 2 years though.

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So there's a chance my more recent wages could count? I did do some odd jobs here and there.

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Only if those jobs were covered employment where taxes were withheld. Cash jobs or 1099 work usually doesn't count for UI.

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this whole system is ridiculous... people pay into unemployment for years and then when they actually need it theres all these hoops to jump through. 2 years shouldnt disqualify someone completely

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The system is designed to provide temporary assistance for people who lose jobs through no fault of their own. It's not meant to be a long-term safety net.

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still seems wrong that your contributions just disappear after a certain time period

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You should still file an application even if you're not sure about eligibility. Washington ESD will make the determination and you'll know for certain. The worst they can say is no, and then you'll have a clear answer about your base period wages.

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That's a good point. Is there any downside to filing if I'm not eligible?

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No downside as long as you're honest on the application. Just don't file fraudulent claims.

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My cousin had a gap like this and ended up qualifying under some special circumstances provision. Something about good cause for the work separation. Might be worth looking into if your personal issues were health related or family emergency type stuff.

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It was partially health related. Do you know what kind of documentation they would need for that?

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not sure about specifics but probably medical records or doctor statements. you'd have to ask washington esd directly

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Also keep in mind that even if you somehow qualify, you'll need to register with WorkSource and do the job search activities. After being out of work for 2 years, they might require you to do additional reemployment services.

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What kind of additional services? Like job training?

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Could be workshops, skills assessments, resume help, interview practice. Depends on what they think you need to get back into the workforce.

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Another thing to consider - if you do qualify somehow, your weekly benefit amount will be based on those old wages from 2+ years ago. With inflation, that amount is going to be pretty low compared to current living costs.

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Better than nothing I guess. Every little bit helps when you're trying to get back on your feet.

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Wait I'm confused about something. If someone hasn't worked in 2 years, how would they be involuntarily unemployed? Don't you have to lose a job to file for unemployment? You can't just decide to start working again after 2 years and claim benefits right?

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That's a good point. You generally need to have lost employment involuntarily or had your hours reduced. Just deciding to re-enter the workforce after a voluntary absence typically wouldn't qualify you.

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The circumstances of why I stopped working were complicated. It wasn't really voluntary but I didn't file at the time.

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ah ok that makes more sense. you might need to explain all that to washington esd when you file

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I work at a workforce development center and see this situation sometimes. Honestly, after 2 years the chances are pretty slim unless there were very specific circumstances. But definitely worth applying to find out for sure. The online application will walk you through the base period calculation.

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Thanks for the perspective from someone who deals with this professionally. I'll go ahead and apply and see what happens.

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Good luck! And remember even if UI doesn't work out, there are other resources available to help with job searching and training.

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Is that like a paid service or something? Seems weird that you'd need to pay extra just to talk to a government agency.

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It's worth it when you consider how much time you waste trying to get through normally. They don't make you give out personal info either, just gets you connected.

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UPDATE: I tried that Claimyr thing and holy crap it actually worked. Got through to Washington ESD in under 15 minutes when I've been trying for weeks. Mind blown. They were able to answer my questions about my claim status too.

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That's amazing! I'll definitely try that if I need to call them about my application.

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Ok now I'm curious about this service. Might have to check it out for my own ESD issues.

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Don't get your hopes up too high. I've seen plenty of people in similar situations get denied. The base period requirements are pretty strict and there's not much wiggle room. But yeah, still worth trying I guess.

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I'm trying to be realistic about it. Just exploring all my options at this point.

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One more thing to think about - even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, there might be state or local programs for people re-entering the workforce after extended absence. Check with your local WorkSource office about reentry programs.

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That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought about workforce reentry programs specifically.

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They sometimes have funding for training, job placement assistance, even temporary financial support while you get back on your feet.

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Final advice - when you do file the application, be completely honest about your work history and the reasons for your absence. Washington ESD will verify everything anyway, and being upfront from the start will save you headaches later if there's an adjudication process.

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Absolutely, I plan to be totally transparent. Thanks everyone for all the helpful information!

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