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Zainab Ibrahim

Will ex-spouse lose Social Security spousal benefits after remarrying? How does SSA know?

I'm helping my mother navigate a confusing Social Security situation. She's 67 and collecting benefits based on my father's record (they were married 23 years before divorcing in 2008). Dad has a much higher benefit amount, so Mom gets that spousal "top-up" on her own smaller benefit. Here's where it gets complicated - Mom is planning to remarry her boyfriend next summer. She's worried about losing her current benefit amount, but isn't sure how the SSA would even know about the marriage. Does she need to report it herself? Will her benefits automatically stop? And most importantly, if she does lose the ex-spousal benefit after remarrying, will her payment just drop to her own smaller amount? She's on a fixed income and really can't afford a significant reduction. Any insights from people who've dealt with this situation would be incredibly helpful!

StarSailor

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Yes, your mother will lose her ex-spousal benefits when she remarries. Social Security regulations are very clear on this - once you remarry, you can no longer collect on an ex-spouse's record except in survivor benefit situations (which don't apply here since your father is still living). Her benefit will revert to her own retirement benefit amount only. As for reporting, yes, she is legally required to report the marriage to SSA. They may eventually find out through marriage records or tax filings, but she should proactively report it to avoid potential overpayments that she'd have to pay back. Has she considered what the financial impact will be switching to just her own benefit?

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Thank you for confirming what I feared. Mom's own benefit is about $1,450 vs. the $2,175 she gets now with the ex-spousal boost. That's a huge drop for her! I wonder if it would make more financial sense for them to just live together without legally marrying? I hate that she has to choose between love and financial security.

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my frend didnt report her remarriage for almost 2 years and then got hit with a HUGE overpayment notice!!! had to pay back like 20k to SSA. they found out when she filed taxes jointly with new husband. very messy situation dont recommend!!!

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Yikes! That's exactly what I'm worried about. Mom definitely can't afford to pay back anything. I'll make sure she knows how serious this is.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Wait a second - what if your mom's new husband has a higher benefit than her ex? Would she be eligible to claim spousal benefits on HIS record after they marry? That might offset some of the loss, right? Worth looking into before they make any decisions.

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Hmm, that's a really good point I hadn't considered! Her boyfriend is 72 and worked as a construction foreman most of his life, so he might have a decent benefit. I'll ask her to find out what his benefit amount is. Thanks for giving us another angle to explore!

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I went through EXACTLY this when I remarried at 66!!! The SSA office told me I had to report within 10 days of the marriage ceremony. They gave me a form to fill out (can't remember the number) and my benefit dropped the following month. It was AWFUL going from $2340 to just $1625. My husband and I should have just lived in sin LOL!!!

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Paolo Rizzo

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living in sin lol. but for real thats what my parents did after they both got divorced. they been together 15 years but never got married cuz of the ss benefits thing. makes sense tbh

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QuantumQuest

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I'd recommend your mother book an appointment at her local Social Security office or call them directly to discuss her specific situation before the wedding. The rules around marriage and benefits can be complicated, and there might be aspects of her situation we're missing. One thing to note is that the Social Security Administration doesn't automatically get notified of marriages. They rely on self-reporting and periodic information exchanges with other agencies. But failing to report is considered fraud and can result in penalties beyond just repaying benefits. Your mother should weigh her options carefully. Some couples in this situation choose to have a commitment ceremony without legally marrying specifically to preserve benefits. Others determine that marriage is worth the financial impact.

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Thank you for the thoughtful response. Getting an appointment with SSA has been almost impossible though... we've been trying for weeks with no luck. Mom keeps getting disconnected when calling the 800 number. Is there any trick to actually talking to someone there?

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Yara Sabbagh

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While everyone is focused on whether she should marry or not, there's another angle here. If her boyfriend has a higher benefit amount than her ex-husband, she should absolutely get married because then she could claim the higher spousal benefit on his record instead! But if his benefit is lower than her ex's, then yes, financially it makes more sense not to legally marry. The SSA doesn't care about relationship status - only legal marriage.

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This is a great point. I'll have Mom ask her boyfriend about his benefit amount. He worked over 40 years at his job, so it might be substantial. Would she get 50% of his benefit if it's higher than her own?

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StarSailor

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Just to clarify - if she remarries, she could get up to 50% of her new husband's full retirement age benefit amount if that's higher than her own benefit. But she wouldn't get both her own benefit AND the spousal benefit - it would just be the higher of the two.

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Paolo Rizzo

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dont forget taxes!!! might change her tax situation too if they get married vs just living together

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Great point about taxes - I hadn't even thought about that angle. This is getting complicated fast!

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QuantumQuest

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To summarize what everyone has said: 1. Yes, remarriage will terminate her ex-spousal benefits 2. She is legally required to report the marriage to SSA 3. Her benefit would revert to her own retirement amount 4. After marriage, she may be eligible for spousal benefits on her new husband's record 5. If she doesn't report the marriage and SSA discovers it later, she'll face overpayment recovery 6. Some couples choose not to legally marry to preserve benefits This is ultimately a personal decision balancing financial and emotional factors. Whatever she decides, make sure she understands all implications and reports any changes appropriately to avoid future complications.

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Thank you for this clear summary. I'm going to discuss all these options with Mom this weekend. I appreciate everyone's helpful advice - this has given us a lot to consider before she makes any decisions.

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CosmicCadet

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I'm a Social Security case worker and wanted to add some clarification on a few points that have come up in this discussion. First, yes, remarriage does terminate divorced spousal benefits, but the timing matters - benefits stop the month after the month of remarriage, not immediately. Second, regarding reporting requirements, you have 10 days after the event to report changes, but I always recommend doing it as soon as possible to avoid complications. Third, when comparing potential spousal benefits on a new husband's record, remember that if your mother is already receiving her own retirement benefit, she would receive the higher of either her own benefit OR the spousal benefit (up to 50% of her new husband's PIA), not both combined. Finally, I'd strongly recommend getting actual benefit estimates from SSA before making this decision - the numbers matter too much to guess. The my Social Security online portal can provide benefit estimates, or she can request them by phone once she gets through to an agent.

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CyberNinja

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Thank you so much for the professional insight! As a case worker, your clarification about the timing is really helpful - knowing that benefits stop the month after remarriage gives us a clearer timeline. The point about getting actual benefit estimates is crucial too. Mom has been hesitant to create an online account, but I think I need to help her set up the my Social Security portal so we can get real numbers instead of guessing. Do you have any tips for helping older adults navigate the online system, or is calling still the better option for someone who's not tech-savvy?

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Andre Laurent

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This is such a common dilemma for people approaching remarriage! I went through something similar with my aunt a few years ago. One thing that really helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing the different scenarios: 1. Current situation (ex-spousal benefits) 2. After remarriage with just her own benefit 3. After remarriage with potential new spousal benefits 4. Long-term financial impact over 10-20 years We also factored in non-financial benefits like health insurance changes, tax implications, and even estate planning considerations. Sometimes the "living together" option makes the most sense financially, but there can be other legal protections that come with marriage (medical decisions, inheritance rights, etc.) that are worth considering too. Has your mom thought about consulting with a financial planner who specializes in retirement benefits? Some offer free consultations and can help run the numbers on all these different scenarios. It might be worth the investment to get professional guidance on such a big decision.

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TechNinja

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This spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I'm definitely going to help Mom create something like this to visualize all the scenarios. The point about non-financial factors is really important too - she's been so focused on the dollar amounts that we haven't fully considered things like medical decision-making rights and inheritance protections. A financial planner consultation sounds like a smart investment given how much money is at stake here. Do you happen to remember what kind of fee your aunt paid for that type of specialized retirement benefits consultation?

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I'm going through this exact situation right now! My mom remarried last year at 68 and we had to navigate all this complexity. Here's what I learned that might help: First, definitely get her boyfriend's benefit amount before making any decisions. My mom's new husband had a much lower benefit than her ex, so financially it would have been better not to marry legally. But they chose love over money and don't regret it. Second, the SSA online portal is actually pretty user-friendly once you get past the initial setup. I helped my mom create her account and now she can check her benefit estimates anytime. The key is having all her documents ready - birth certificate, Social Security card, and driver's license. One thing that surprised us was how quickly everything changed once she reported the marriage. Her ex-spousal benefits stopped the very next month, but the new spousal benefits on her husband's record kicked in immediately too. The transition was smoother than expected. Also, consider timing! If they're planning a summer wedding, she might want to get married early in a month so the benefit change happens at the beginning of the following month rather than losing partial benefits mid-month. The emotional aspect is huge too. My mom says the peace of mind from being legally married and having all the protections that come with it was worth the financial hit. But every situation is different!

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Noah Ali

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Thank you so much for sharing your real-world experience with this situation! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who has actually been through this process recently. The timing tip about getting married early in the month is something I never would have thought of - that's the kind of practical advice that can make a real difference. I'm curious about the transition you mentioned - when your mom's new spousal benefits kicked in immediately, was that automatic or did she have to file additional paperwork? Also, knowing that the SSA online portal worked well for your mom gives me more confidence about helping mine set up her account. The emotional perspective is so important too - it sounds like your mom found the right balance between financial considerations and personal happiness. Did you end up using a financial advisor to help with the decision, or did you figure it all out on your own?

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Marcus Marsh

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who works in elder law - there's also the option of a prenuptial agreement that addresses some of the financial protections while potentially keeping Social Security benefits separate. Some couples use this approach when the benefit loss would be substantial. Also, if your mom's boyfriend has been divorced himself, it's worth checking if he might be eligible for higher benefits on his own ex-spouse's record rather than just his own work record. Sometimes people don't realize they have multiple benefit options that could change the whole calculation. One more thing - if they do decide to marry, make sure to ask SSA about any potential "protective filing" options. Sometimes there are ways to preserve certain benefit elections or timing that can minimize the financial impact. The rules are incredibly complex and even SSA representatives sometimes miss these nuances, so it's worth asking specifically about all available options for your mom's situation.

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This is such valuable legal perspective! I hadn't even considered a prenuptial agreement as a way to potentially protect some benefits - that's definitely something we should explore with an elder law attorney. The point about checking if her boyfriend might be eligible for divorced spousal benefits himself is really smart too. He was married for about 15 years before his divorce, so that could be another avenue to investigate. The "protective filing" concept is completely new to me - I'll make sure to ask specifically about that when we finally get through to SSA. It sounds like there are way more options and nuances than I initially realized. Would you recommend consulting with an elder law attorney before making any final decisions, or is that overkill for this type of situation?

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Ravi Gupta

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As someone who went through this decision process with my grandmother a few years ago, I want to emphasize how important it is to get ALL the numbers before deciding. We discovered that her boyfriend was actually eligible for survivor benefits from his first wife (who had passed away) that were higher than his own work record - something he had no idea about! This completely changed their financial picture when considering remarriage. Also, don't overlook state-specific benefits that might be affected. Some states have programs for seniors that consider marital status, and the tax implications can be significant depending on their combined income levels. One practical tip: if they do decide to marry, consider having the ceremony right at the beginning of a month. Since SSA benefits stop the month after marriage, this timing can help avoid losing partial benefits mid-month. The emotional toll of this decision is real too. My grandmother struggled with feeling like she had to choose between love and financial security, but ultimately decided that having a legal partner for medical decisions and other life situations was worth more than the monthly difference. Everyone's situation is different, but don't let the financial stress overshadow the personal happiness aspect entirely.

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Jake Sinclair

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Wow, the survivor benefits angle is something I never would have thought to explore! That's exactly the kind of hidden opportunity that could completely change the math. I'll definitely ask her boyfriend about his first wife's work history and whether he might be eligible for survivor benefits. The timing tip about marrying at the beginning of the month is so practical - these little details can really add up financially. Your point about the emotional aspect really resonates too. Mom has been so stressed about the numbers that I think she's losing sight of why she wants to get married in the first place. Maybe we need to step back and help her think about what's most important for her overall well-being and happiness, not just her monthly budget. Thank you for sharing your grandmother's experience - it helps to know others have successfully navigated this difficult choice.

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