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When exactly do SS benefits start if retiring in January before FRA? Timing first payment confusion

I'm planning to retire at 65 this coming January 2025 (I know it's not my FRA which is 66 and 8 months, but I'm ready to be done). Everyone keeps telling me January is the 'magic month' to stop working if you're retiring before FRA, but I'm confused about exactly when I'd get my first Social Security check. If I submit my retirement paperwork and stop working anytime in January (could be Jan 3rd or Jan 31st), would my first SS payment arrive in February? Or March? There's this whole 'month of entitlement' thing I don't understand. Also, does it matter what day in January I actually stop working? Would stopping on January 31st versus January 1st change anything about when my benefits start? I earn about $6,700/month currently if that matters for the calculations. Just trying to plan my finances and don't want to be caught without income for a month! Thanks for any clarity on this timing issue.

The way Social Security payments work is that you receive benefits for the PREVIOUS month. So if January is your first month of entitlement, you'll receive your first payment in FEBRUARY (which pays for January). However, there's an important detail - Social Security considers you entitled for any month in which you don't exceed the earnings limit, which for 2025 will be around $22,320 annually for people under FRA. This breaks down to $1,860 monthly. Since you make $6,700/month, if you work even ONE day in January, you'll exceed the monthly limit and won't be entitled to benefits for January. In that case, your first month of entitlement would be February, with your first payment arriving in MARCH. Does that make sense?

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Oh! I had no idea about the monthly earnings limit. So even if I work just January 3rd and earn maybe $1,000 for those few days, I don't get any January benefits? That seems harsh. Do they prorate it at all?

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idk for sure but my dad retired last year and he said you gotta be careful with the money limit stuff. he worked 2 weeks in January and didnt get any SS money that month cus he went over some limit. better check with SSA directly to be sure

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You're right, the earnings test is SUPER strict! My neighbor lost an entire month's worth of benefits because she worked ONE extra shift that pushed her over by like $50! The whole system is designed to penalize people who try to work. It's ridiculous how they count every penny when you're under FRA but the month you hit FRA they suddenly don't care how much you make. MAKES NO SENSE!!!

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There are some important clarifications needed here about the earnings test: 1. For the year you first retire, SSA offers a "monthly earnings test" option where they only look at your earnings on a monthly basis rather than annually. 2. For 2025, if you earn more than approximately $1,860 in January, you won't receive benefits for that month. (This is estimating based on the 2024 limit of $1,770 with an assumed COLA increase) 3. The key is that your first month of ENTITLEMENT would be the first month you earn under the monthly limit. 4. Social Security pays benefits in the month FOLLOWING the month of entitlement. So if January is your first month under the earnings limit, you'll receive your first payment in February. 5. If you work even a single day in January and earn over the monthly limit, February becomes your first month of entitlement, with payment arriving in March. There is no proration - it's an all-or-nothing test for each month.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. So it sounds like if I want my first check in February, I need to make sure I don't work AT ALL in January - is that right? Or at least make sure I earn less than $1,860 for the entire month?

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That's exactly right. If you want your first check in February (paying for January benefits), you should either: 1. Not work at all in January, OR 2. Make sure your gross earnings in January stay below the monthly limit (around $1,860 for 2025) And remember that this is gross earnings, before any deductions. Even if you only work a few days but earn over the limit, you'll lose benefits for the entire month.

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This happened to me last year. Worked 4 days in January thinking it would be fine. Earned $2,200 and got NO benefits for January. My first check came in March. Wish someone had told me sooner!

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I've been through this exact situation and tried for WEEKS to get someone at SSA on the phone to explain it properly. Kept getting busy signals or disconnected after waiting for hours. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 15 minutes. The agent explained everything about the monthly earnings test for new retirees. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU if you want to see it in action. The agent confirmed what others here are saying - if you earn even slightly over the monthly limit in January (which at your salary would happen in less than a day of work), your first benefit payment would come in March, not February.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for days with no luck. I'll check out that service - I really need to talk to someone to make sure I understand everything correctly before making my retirement decision.

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just want to add that the payment schedule depends on your birth date too. if your birthday is between the 1st-10th, you get paid on the 2nd wednesday. 11th-20th = 3rd wednesday, and 21st-31st = 4th wednesday. so even if january is your first month, you might not get paid until late february depending on your birthday

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Good point - my birthday is on the 27th so I guess I'd be in the last group. So potentially waiting until the 4th Wednesday of February for my first payment (if I don't work in January at all).

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To directly answer your original question: The "January is best time to retire" advice refers to stopping work completely before January 1st, so that January is your first full month of retirement with no earnings. This gives you January as your first month of entitlement, with your first payment arriving in February. If you work even one day in January and exceed the monthly earnings limit, you're essentially pushing your retirement date (for Social Security purposes) to February 1st, with your first payment in March. The monthly earnings test only applies in your first year of retirement. After that, they use the annual test. That's why January is considered optimal - it gives you a full year of benefits in your first retirement year if you stop working in December.

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wait so do they look at how much u make for the whole year after ur first year? i thought it was always monthly

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To clarify for everyone: The monthly earnings test ONLY applies in the year you retire. In subsequent years, SSA looks at your ANNUAL earnings. So in 2025, if that's your retirement year, they'll use the monthly test - where you can get benefits for any month you earn under the limit (regardless of annual total). But in 2026, they'll look at your total annual earnings. If you earn above the annual limit (roughly $22,320 for 2025, will be higher for 2026), they'll withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. This is why many financial advisors recommend retiring at the end of December, so January is your first month with no earnings. It maximizes your benefits during the first year of retirement.

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The whole system is DESIGNED to be confusing! They want people to mess up so they can take back benefits. I bet half the people who retire lose a month or two of payments because nobody explains this stuff clearly!!

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I retired last year and we didn't know about this monthly vs. annual thing. My wife worked until January 15th and her first check didn't come until March. We had to dip into savings that extra month we weren't planning on. Just make sure you're financially prepared if you do work in January.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm leaning toward making my last day December 31st just to be safe. Better to have the money in February than wait until March.

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That's a wise decision. To summarize everything for your situation: 1. If you stop working completely by December 31st, 2024, January will be your first month of entitlement, and you'll receive your first payment in February 2025 (on the 4th Wednesday since your birthday is on the 27th). 2. If you work any days in January 2025 and earn over $1,860 (which at your salary would happen quickly), February becomes your first month of entitlement, with your first payment arriving in March 2025. Just make sure when you file for benefits that you clearly indicate your last day of work and expected earnings for January if you do work in January. This helps prevent overpayments that you'd have to pay back later.

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Thank you so much for all this information! I'm going to talk to my employer tomorrow about making December 31st my last day. One final question - should I apply for benefits now or wait until closer to December?

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You can apply up to 4 months before you want your benefits to begin. Since you want benefits to start in January 2025, you could apply as early as September 2024. I'd recommend applying about 2-3 months in advance to give SSA time to process everything. So October or November would be ideal. Make sure to clearly specify January 2025 as your benefit start month when you apply. Applying online at ssa.gov is usually the fastest and easiest method. You'll need to have your bank information ready for direct deposit, and they'll ask about your expected earnings for 2025 (which should be zero if you're stopping work on December 31st).

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Perfect, thank you! I'll plan to apply online in October then. I really appreciate everyone's help in figuring this out.

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Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do apply in October, make sure to keep copies of everything you submit. I've seen cases where SSA loses paperwork or there are processing delays, and having your own records makes it much easier to follow up if needed. Also, once you get your award letter, double-check all the details carefully. Sometimes they get the benefit start date wrong or miscalculate the reduction for early retirement. It's much easier to fix these issues before your first payment than after. Good luck with your retirement planning! Sounds like you've got a solid plan now with stopping work on December 31st.

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One additional tip that might save you some hassle - when you apply in October, you'll likely get a call from SSA to verify your application details. They sometimes call from blocked numbers, so make sure to answer unknown calls during that period or you might miss them and have to reschedule. Also, since you're retiring before your full retirement age, they'll calculate your reduced benefit amount. At 65 with an FRA of 66 and 8 months, you'll be taking benefits 20 months early, which means your benefit will be reduced by about 13.33%. Just want to make sure you're factoring that into your retirement planning. The reduction is permanent, so even when you reach FRA, your benefit amount won't increase back to the full amount. But it sounds like you've already considered this since you mentioned you're ready to be done working!

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This is really helpful information about the permanent reduction! I hadn't fully grasped that the 13.33% reduction would be permanent even after I reach FRA. That's definitely something to factor into my long-term financial planning. I appreciate you mentioning the phone call verification too - I'll make sure to keep my phone handy during the application period. It's amazing how many little details there are to navigate with Social Security!

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Just to add some reassurance - I went through this exact same process last year when I retired at 64. The key is really in that December 31st cutoff date. I was nervous about the timing too, but it worked exactly as everyone here is explaining. I stopped work on December 30th, applied for benefits in October, and got my first payment on the 2nd Wednesday in February (my birthday is the 8th). The whole process was actually smoother than I expected once I understood the monthly earnings test. One thing that helped me was creating a simple timeline on paper with all the key dates - last work day, application date, first month of entitlement, expected first payment date. It made everything feel more concrete and less overwhelming. You're smart to get this figured out now rather than scrambling at the last minute. Sounds like you've got a solid plan with stopping on December 31st and applying in October!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this process successfully. I like your idea about creating a timeline on paper - that would definitely help me visualize everything and make sure I don't miss any important dates. I'm feeling much more confident about my plan now after reading everyone's responses. December 31st last day of work and October application it is!

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I went through this same situation when I retired at 62 a few years back, and the timing confusion is so real! One thing I wish someone had told me is to also consider your Medicare enrollment timeline when planning that December 31st retirement date. Since you're turning 65, you'll be eligible for Medicare starting the month you turn 65 (assuming your birthday isn't January 1st). If you're currently getting health insurance through your employer, make sure you understand how that transition will work - you don't want any gaps in coverage. Also, just a heads up that when you do get your first Social Security payment, they'll typically send you a notice explaining exactly how they calculated your benefit amount and the reduction for taking it early. Keep that paperwork - it's really helpful for understanding your payments and for tax purposes later. Sounds like you've got a great plan figured out with everyone's help here. The December 31st cutoff really is the way to go to maximize your first year of benefits!

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That's a great point about Medicare enrollment timing! I hadn't even thought about the health insurance transition. My birthday is actually in March, so I'll need to make sure I understand when my Medicare eligibility starts and how to coordinate that with my employer coverage ending on December 31st. I definitely don't want any gaps in health coverage during that transition period. Thanks for mentioning the benefit calculation notice too - I'll make sure to keep all that paperwork organized for tax season. It's incredible how many moving pieces there are to coordinate when retiring!

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Since your birthday is in March and you're planning to retire December 31st, you'll actually have a few months between when your employer coverage ends and when you become eligible for Medicare. You'll want to look into COBRA continuation coverage from your employer to bridge that gap, or explore marketplace plans if COBRA is too expensive. For Medicare, you'll have a 7-month Initial Enrollment Period that starts 3 months before the month you turn 65, includes the month you turn 65, and continues for 3 months after. So if you turn 65 in March 2025, your enrollment period would be December 2024 through June 2025. I'd recommend contacting your HR department soon to understand your COBRA options and costs, and maybe schedule a Medicare consultation closer to your enrollment period. The timing actually works out well since you can enroll in Medicare during that December-February window while you're getting your Social Security application processed. Just another piece of the retirement puzzle to coordinate, but definitely manageable with some advance planning!

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This is incredibly helpful information about the Medicare timing! I had no idea about the 7-month enrollment period or how it would overlap with my retirement timing. The COBRA bridge option makes a lot of sense to avoid any coverage gaps. I'm definitely going to reach out to HR this week to get the details on COBRA costs and coverage. It's reassuring to know that the Medicare enrollment window will be open right when I'm going through the Social Security application process. Thanks for breaking down those specific timeframes - it really helps me see how all these pieces fit together. I'm starting to feel like I actually have a comprehensive retirement plan now!

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One more thing to consider as you plan your December 31st retirement date - make sure to also think about any year-end bonuses or unused vacation payouts you might receive in January. Even if you stop working on December 31st, if your employer pays out accrued vacation time or a bonus in January, that could count as earnings for the month and potentially affect your Social Security benefits. I'd recommend checking with your HR department about when any final payments will be issued. If they're planning to pay out vacation or bonuses in January, see if you can arrange to receive them in December instead to keep your January earnings at zero. Also, don't forget about any 401(k) or pension decisions you need to make before leaving. Some employers have deadlines for making elections about how you want to receive retirement benefits, and you don't want to miss those windows while focusing on the Social Security timing. Sounds like you're really on top of the planning though - having that December 31st hard stop will definitely simplify things for your Social Security benefits!

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This is such an important point about year-end payouts! I completely overlooked that vacation time and bonuses could still count as January earnings even if I stop working December 31st. I'll definitely need to talk to HR about the timing of any final payments. It would be really frustrating to lose my January Social Security benefits because of a vacation payout I wasn't expecting. Thanks for also mentioning the 401(k) and pension deadlines - I should probably make a comprehensive list of all the HR-related items I need to handle before my last day. There are so many details to coordinate, but posts like this are helping me think through everything systematically!

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Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational! As someone who's also approaching retirement age, I had no idea about the monthly earnings test for the first year versus the annual test for subsequent years. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - what happens if you miscalculate and accidentally work too many days in January after already filing for benefits? Is there a way to correct that with SSA, or do you just have to wait until the following month and potentially deal with an overpayment situation? Also, for those who have been through this process, how long did it typically take to receive your award letter after applying online? I'm wondering if there are any seasonal delays during the busy enrollment periods. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this thread is a goldmine of practical information that you just can't find easily on the official SSA website!

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Great questions! From what I've learned through this process, if you accidentally work too many days in January after filing, you should contact SSA immediately to report the change in your work status. They can adjust your benefit start date, but you're right that it typically means waiting until February becomes your first month of entitlement with payment in March. It's much better to proactively report changes than deal with overpayment recovery later. As for award letter timing, I applied online in October and received my award letter about 6-8 weeks later in late November. I've heard that applications submitted during busy periods (like the beginning of the year when lots of people are filing) can take a bit longer, so applying in October like you're planning should help avoid those delays. You're absolutely right that this thread has way more practical detail than the official SSA website! It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when people share their real experiences.

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This is such a comprehensive discussion! As a newcomer to the community, I'm really impressed by how detailed everyone's responses are. I'm in a similar situation - planning to retire at 64 next year - and I had no clue about the monthly earnings test versus annual earnings test distinction. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned: if you're planning that December 31st retirement date, is there any benefit to actually submitting your Social Security application even earlier than October? Like in August or September? I know they said you can apply up to 4 months in advance, so I'm wondering if getting it in even earlier might help avoid any potential processing delays or give you more time to catch any errors in the application. Also, for those who have been through this - did SSA ever follow up with additional questions or requests for documentation after you submitted your online application? I want to make sure I have all my paperwork organized and ready to go. Thanks again to everyone for sharing such valuable real-world experience. This is exactly the kind of practical information you need but can't easily find elsewhere!

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Welcome to the community! Your question about applying even earlier than October is really smart thinking. From what I understand, while you CAN apply up to 4 months early, there's actually no significant advantage to applying in August versus October for a January start date. The processing time is fairly consistent, and applying too early might actually create more opportunities for changes in your situation that you'd need to report and potentially complicate things. Regarding documentation follow-up - yes, SSA sometimes does request additional paperwork after the initial application. Common requests include verification of earnings history if there are discrepancies, proof of citizenship/legal status, or clarification about work history gaps. Having your tax returns for the past few years, W-2s, and any military service records organized ahead of time can really help speed things up if they do ask for anything. One tip I'd add based on reading this thread - consider creating a simple checklist with all your key dates and tasks: talk to HR about final pay timing, organize required documents, submit SSA application in October, coordinate Medicare enrollment, etc. It really helps keep everything straight when you're juggling so many moving pieces!

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This has been such an incredibly helpful thread! As someone new to the community who's just starting to research Social Security retirement benefits, I'm amazed by the depth of practical knowledge everyone has shared here. I'm particularly grateful for the clarification about the monthly earnings test in the first year versus the annual test in subsequent years - that's such a crucial distinction that isn't clearly explained on the SSA website. The specific examples of how even working a few days in January can push you over the monthly limit and delay benefits by a full month really drives home how important that December 31st cutoff date is. I also appreciate everyone mentioning the related considerations like Medicare enrollment timing, COBRA coverage, year-end bonus/vacation payouts, and 401(k) decisions. It's clear that retiring involves coordinating so many different moving pieces beyond just the Social Security application itself. For those still planning their retirement, this thread shows how valuable it is to start researching these details well in advance rather than waiting until the last minute. The complexity of the earnings test rules and payment timing really requires careful planning to avoid costly mistakes. Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences and expertise - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes all the difference when navigating these important decisions!

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I completely agree - this thread has been an absolute treasure trove of practical information! As another newcomer, I'm blown away by how much detail everyone has provided about the nuances of Social Security timing that you just can't find spelled out clearly anywhere else. The real-world examples really help make sense of the abstract rules. Hearing about people who lost entire months of benefits because they worked just a few extra days, or learning about the permanent nature of the early retirement reduction - these are the kinds of details that can save someone thousands of dollars if they plan properly. I'm also taking notes on all the related retirement coordination items mentioned here - the Medicare timing, COBRA considerations, final paycheck timing, etc. It's clear that successful retirement planning requires thinking holistically about all these interconnected systems, not just focusing on Social Security in isolation. This community is such a valuable resource for people navigating these complex government programs. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly impressed by the depth of knowledge and real-world experience everyone has shared in this thread! The distinction between the monthly earnings test in your first year of retirement versus the annual test in subsequent years is something I had never heard explained so clearly anywhere else. What really stands out to me is how the December 31st retirement date strategy can literally save someone an entire month of benefits. At a typical Social Security payment amount, that could be $1,500-$3,000+ that you'd lose just from working a few extra days in January. The stakes are much higher than I realized! I'm also taking notes on all the additional considerations mentioned here - Medicare coordination, COBRA timing, final paycheck scheduling, 401(k) decisions, etc. It's clear that successful retirement requires orchestrating multiple government and employer systems simultaneously, not just focusing on Social Security alone. For anyone else reading this thread who's planning retirement, I'd echo what others have said about starting this research early. The complexity of these rules and the potential financial impact of small timing mistakes really requires careful advance planning. This community discussion has been more valuable than hours of trying to navigate the official SSA website! Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences and expertise - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes a real difference when making these important life decisions.

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As someone who's also new to this community and just starting to research retirement planning, I couldn't agree more! This thread has been absolutely eye-opening. I had no idea about the monthly vs. annual earnings test difference, and frankly, the SSA website makes it so confusing to understand the real-world implications. What really struck me is how precise the timing needs to be - literally the difference between December 31st and January 1st can cost you thousands of dollars and delay your first payment by an entire month. That's the kind of detail that can make or break someone's retirement financial planning. I'm also grateful for everyone mentioning the coordination with other benefits and employer systems. It's clear that retirement isn't just about filing one Social Security application - you're juggling Medicare enrollment, health insurance transitions, final employer payments, and making sure none of those other payments accidentally push you over the earnings limit. The personal stories from people who actually went through this process are invaluable. Reading about someone losing benefits because they worked just a few extra days really drives home how important it is to get the timing exactly right. This is definitely the kind of practical knowledge you can only get from a community like this where people share their real experiences!

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