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Social Security survivor benefits dilemma after job loss - rethinking filing at FRA vs. 70

Just got off the phone with my local SS office after holding for 45 minutes. They're telling me they can't schedule in-person appointments right now! My calendar shows the next available phone appointment is 6-8 days out, or I can try calling back next Monday when they might have new slots open. My situation is complicated. My daughter receives survivor benefits based on her late mother's earnings record. The rep said I don't need a separate appointment for questions about her benefits - they can handle both during my phone appointment. But I specifically wanted to SEE benefit projections on paper! How am I supposed to understand all these numbers over the phone? I lost my job on 11/15 and just turned 67 in December. My original plan was to claim survivor benefits next year (2026) and then switch to my own retirement at 70 for the maximum amount. But with no steady income now, I'm wondering if I need to completely rethink this strategy. Has anyone been able to get an in-person appointment lately? Or is there a better way to see actual benefit projections rather than having them read to me over the phone? This decision could impact thousands of dollars of future benefits and I'm really stressed about making the right choice.

I'm sorry you're going through this stressful situation. The strategy of claiming survivor benefits and then switching to your own retirement benefits at 70 is often a smart approach, but job loss definitely complicates things. Regarding the appointment issue - most SSA offices have limited in-person appointments to essential services only. For benefit projections, you actually have a few options that might be better than phone: 1. Create a my Social Security account online (ssa.gov/myaccount) where you can view retirement benefit estimates based on your actual earnings history 2. For survivor benefit projections, request that they email or mail the projections to you before your phone appointment so you can review them together 3. Ask if they can do a video appointment instead of just phone As for your strategy, before changing course, consider whether you have enough savings to bridge the gap until your planned filing date. Sometimes taking benefits early due to temporary hardship can permanently reduce your lifetime benefits by tens of thousands of dollars.

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Thanks for these suggestions. I do have a my Social Security account, but it only shows my retirement benefit estimates, not what I'd get from survivor benefits. I think I'll definitely ask them to mail me the projections before the call. I have some savings that could last about 6-7 months if I'm really careful. After that, I'd need to start taking from my 401k, which I was hoping to avoid. It's just so frustrating not being able to sit down with someone face-to-face to work through all the numbers.

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They told me the same thing last month but I kept calling different field offices until I found one that would let me come in. Try calling offices that are a bit further away but still within driving distance. Some have different policies than others.

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This is actually not accurate advice. SSA policy on in-person appointments is set at the national level, not by individual offices. While some offices might have more availability than others, they all follow the same criteria for when in-person appointments are necessary. What's more likely is that you happened to call when a cancellation opened up a slot, or your specific situation met their criteria for an essential in-person visit. For benefit projections and filing strategy questions, phone appointments are the standard procedure right now. The OP would be better served by preparing specific questions and requesting written projections by mail rather than office-shopping, which could just waste valuable time.

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i had the same exact problem!!!! was on hold for 2 HOURS just to be told no in-person appts. ended up taking ss at 66 bcause couldnt wait. REGRET IT NOW!!! less money every month forever :

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! I don't want to make a hasty decision I'll regret. How much less are you getting compared to what you could have received?

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Have you considered using Claimyr to reach a Social Security agent faster? I was in a similar situation trying to get answers about my widower benefits last month. Used their service at claimyr.com and they got me through to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold forever. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU About your benefit strategy - since you're already 67 (at your FRA), you're entitled to 100% of your survivor benefit amount. Taking it now while looking for a job and then switching to your own retirement at 70 could still be a good plan. The survivor benefit gives you income now without affecting your own retirement benefit's delayed retirement credits.

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I hadn't heard of that service before. I'll check it out if I have more trouble getting through next week. And thanks for pointing out that I'm already at FRA - that's a good point. I was planning to wait until next year for some other financial reasons, but maybe it makes sense to start the survivor benefit now while I'm job hunting.

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Just want to add some info about benefit projections - when I had my phone appointment, the agent offered to email me secure PDF documents with benefit estimates during our call. They can actually show you numbers without an in-person meeting! I was surprised how helpful they were once I finally got someone on the line. Make sure to ask about this option specifically.

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This is excellent advice. SSA has expanded their digital options considerably in the past year. They can now send secure documents through their encrypted email system during or after your appointment. You just need to verify your identity on the call first.

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You mentioned your daughter gets benefits on her late mother's record - just checking, are you her legal guardian? Because if not, they might not discuss her benefits with you at all without proper authorization. They're super strict about privacy these days.

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Yes, I have full legal guardianship for my daughter. She's 16 and has a developmental disability. I handle all her financial matters including her survivor benefits. But that's a good point - I should probably have those documents ready during the call.

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Regarding your overall claiming strategy, here's something important to consider: if you're already at FRA (67), you can claim survivor benefits NOW without any reduction and still let your own retirement benefit grow until 70. This is actually one of the smartest claiming strategies available. With your job loss, starting survivor benefits immediately could provide income while you're job hunting, without affecting your eventual retirement benefit. Your retirement benefit will still increase by 8% per year from FRA to 70 through delayed retirement credits. The projections matrix you want to see likely compares different claiming ages for both benefits. But the analysis is actually quite straightforward in your case: if the survivor benefit is available now at no reduction, and you need income, there's little reason to delay it further. Meanwhile, delaying your own retirement benefit to 70 will maximize that amount for the rest of your life.

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this is what i shouldve done!!! i panicked and took my own benefit at 66 when i couldve done survivors first. nobody explained this to me ☹️

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Wait I'm confused... You said your son gets benefits but then said daughter... which one is it?

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Sorry for the confusion. I have a daughter who receives the survivor benefits. I was typing quickly and mixed up the details. Thanks for catching that.

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One other thing to keep in mind - if you start receiving survivor benefits now and then find a new job, you'll need to be careful about the earnings test if you're working before your FRA. But since you mentioned you're 67 already, the earnings test no longer applies to you! You can earn any amount without reduction of benefits. That's another reason why taking survivor benefits now while continuing your job search could be advantageous.

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That's a huge relief! I was worried about the earnings test because I've heard about benefit reductions if you work. I didn't realize that once you hit FRA, that no longer applies. So if I find a new job after starting survivor benefits, I can keep everything? That's really good to know.

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