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Freya Larsen

Social Security restart at FRA after collecting early during pandemic - will I get full benefits?

I need some advice about restarting my SS retirement benefits. Back in 2020, I lost my job due to COVID and reluctantly claimed my SS at 62 since I had zero income. After 9 months, I was fortunate to find employment again, so I suspended my benefits (filled out the withdrawal form and everything). That was about 5 years ago now. I'll be reaching my full retirement age (67) in just a few months and plan to retire for real this time. My big question: When I apply again at my FRA, will I get my FULL retirement benefit amount? Or will those 9 months of early benefits permanently reduce what I receive? The SSA website isn't clear about my specific situation and I can't get through on the phone. Has anyone been through something similar with starting/stopping benefits?

This depends on whether you WITHDREW your application or SUSPENDED your benefits. These are two completely different things with different outcomes. If you withdrew your application within 12 months of first receiving benefits AND repaid all benefits you received, then you'll get your full FRA amount. If you just suspended payments without withdrawal/repayment, those 9 months will still count as early claiming and your benefit will be permanently reduced.

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Oh no...now I'm worried. I'm pretty sure I filled out a "Request for Withdrawal of Application" form (SSA-521) and had to pay back everything I received. But it was during such a chaotic time, I'm second-guessing myself. Is there a way to confirm this with SSA before I apply again? I don't want any surprises.

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my friend did somthing like this but waited longer to go back to work. she HAD to pay back ALL the money she got from SS before they would "reset" her benefits. did u have to pay back the 9 months worth??

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Yes, I'm almost certain I paid everything back (it was tough financially but worth it long-term). I remember writing a pretty big check to SSA. I just wish I had kept better records from that time.

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I had a very similar situation. The key is whether you filed Form SSA-521 (Request for Withdrawal) within 12 months of your initial claim AND repaid all benefits. If you did both, then yes - you'll receive your full FRA benefit amount as if you never claimed early. It essentially erases those 9 months from your record. If you're unsure, you can verify your status by: 1. Checking your MySocialSecurity account online - your benefit estimate should show your full FRA amount if you successfully withdrew 2. Requesting an appointment with SSA to review your file 3. Checking old bank records for the repayment transaction The difference between withdrawal (what you want) and suspension (which would still leave the reduction) is significant - about 5% of your monthly benefit for the rest of your life.

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Thank you! I just checked my MySocialSecurity account and the estimate does show my full FRA benefit amount. That's a huge relief. I was getting really worried there for a minute. I'll still try to get through to SSA to confirm, but this gives me hope.

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I went thru exact same thing but didn't know I could withdraw! So now I'm stuck with reduced benefits FOREVER even though I only collected for a few months during the pandemic. The SSA system is SO UNFAIR!!!

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That's unfortunate you missed the withdrawal window. But don't forget - if you're still working, you can still voluntarily suspend benefits once you reach FRA. While this won't undo the reduction, you'll earn delayed retirement credits (8% per year) until age 70 which can help offset some of the reduction. Might be worth looking into!

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did u keep the letter they sent u after u withdrew? they should have sent something confirming it went thru

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I moved twice since then and honestly can't find half my paperwork from that period. I was dealing with so much at once during the pandemic. Really regretting my disorganization now!

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Oh thank you! I'll definitely check this out. I've been trying to get through for weeks with no luck. At this point I'd try anything to avoid more frustration.

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It's not free but considering I wasted hours trying to get through on my own, it was worth it for me. They just help you skip the phone queue basically. The actual conversation with SSA is private between you and them.

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One more thing to consider - even IF you didn't properly withdraw (though it sounds like you did), your current benefit estimate might still look decent because: 1. Your 9 months of early claiming would only result in approximately a 4.5% permanent reduction (0.5% per month) 2. Any earnings you've had in the 5 years since may have increased your PIA if they were higher than previous years in your calculation 3. COLA adjustments over the past few years have been substantial So all together, even with a small reduction, you might still see a benefit close to what you originally expected at FRA.

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That's an excellent point! I hadn't considered that my recent earning years would factor into the calculation. The last 5 years were actually my highest earning years, so that would definitely help. Thank you for this perspective - helps reduce my anxiety about the whole situation.

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The WHOLE SYSTEM is designed to confuse us!!! Different rules for withdrawal vs suspension, deadlines we don't know about, and impossible to get answers!!! Why make it so COMPLICATED???

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I understand the frustration, but the distinction between withdrawal and suspension actually makes sense. Withdrawal is meant to be a safety net for people who claim early and quickly realize it was a mistake (within 12 months). Suspension is a different planning tool that allows you to pause benefits after FRA to earn delayed credits. But yes, SSA could definitely do a better job explaining these options to people.

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Based on what you've shared, it sounds like you likely did properly withdraw your application. The fact that you remember submitting the SSA-521 form and repaying benefits is very encouraging. When you apply at your FRA, your benefit should be calculated as if you never claimed early at all. One suggestion: when you apply again, be sure to mention your previous withdrawal in the remarks section of the application. This helps ensure the claims specialist handling your case looks for that information in your record. While their system should show the withdrawal, it never hurts to flag it explicitly.

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Thank you for this advice! I'll definitely mention the withdrawal in the remarks section. I want to make sure they have all the information needed to process my application correctly. Would you recommend applying online or making an in-person appointment for my situation?

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For your situation, I'd recommend starting online (to get in the queue faster) but then following up with a phone appointment to discuss your specific circumstances. You can request a callback when you complete the online application. Given your previous withdrawal, having a conversation with a claims specialist would be beneficial.

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