Social Security reclaimed deceased mother's final payment - confused about SSA-1724-F4 form for underpayment claim
My father passed away last month (February 3rd), and his Social Security direct deposit arrived February 2nd. We just found out Social Security took back the payment yesterday through his bank account. I've been told this is normal since SS benefits are paid for the previous month, not in advance. Now I'm trying to figure out how to claim what's called an "underpayment" (I think that's the right term). The local SSA office gave me form SSA-1724-F4 to complete, but I'm completely lost. There's nowhere on this form to actually list the amount that was reclaimed! Is this even the correct form for this situation? Has anyone gone through this process recently? I'm executor of his estate and trying to handle everything properly, but SS paperwork is so confusing. I'm afraid of making a mistake that will just delay things further. Thank you for any help!
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Lilah Brooks
Yes, SSA-1724-F4 is the right form for underpayments to a deceased beneficiary. You don't need to write the amount - the SSA already knows exactly what they reclaimed. They'll determine the payment amount based on their records. Just complete all the personal info sections, your relationship to the deceased, and submit the documentation they request (usually death certificate and proof you're the executor). The February payment was for January, so they took it back since he wasn't alive for the full month of January. This is standard procedure.
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Owen Jenkins
•Thank you so much! That's a relief - I was worried I was missing something important on the form. So just to be clear, I don't need to specify the amount anywhere? I'll make sure to include the death certificate and executor documents when I submit it.
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Jackson Carter
sorry for your loss. my mom died last year and same thing happened. SS takes back the last payment automatically then you have to file for whats owed. its so frustrating when your dealing with grief!!
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Owen Jenkins
•Thank you - and I'm sorry about your mom too. It really is frustrating to deal with all this paperwork during such a difficult time. Did it take long for them to process your claim after you submitted the form?
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Kolton Murphy
When my husband died they did the same thing. The form you have is correct but BE CAREFUL because they're very picky about how it's filled out. I had mine rejected twice! Make sure you include ALL requested documents. The underpayment should be prorated for the days your father was alive in January. IMPORTANT: There's also a one-time death benefit of $255 you can apply for if you're eligible (spouse or dependent child). That's a separate form - SSA-8.
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Evelyn Rivera
•OMG yes they are SUPER picky about EVERYTHING! My brother's form got rejected because he didn't sign in the right spot or something ridiculous. The whole SS system is designed to be confusing on purpose I swear!!!
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Julia Hall
I had to handle this exact situation last year with my grandmother. Here's what you need to know about the SSA-1724-F4: 1. As others mentioned, you don't list the reclaimed amount - SSA has that on record 2. Parts I and II are straightforward personal information 3. In Part III, you'll indicate your status as executor 4. Part IV requires documentation proving your status 5. Don't forget to sign and date Part V The payment they'll issue is prorated based on the days your father was alive in January - they calculate this as: (monthly benefit ÷ days in month) × days alive in month. Also, underpayment claims can take 45-60 days to process, so be prepared to wait.
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Owen Jenkins
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking it down so clearly! I didn't realize the payment would be prorated by days. That makes sense though. I'll make sure all the documentation is perfect before submitting to avoid delays.
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Arjun Patel
Just adding to what others have said - if you're having trouble getting through to SSA to ask questions (which is really common these days), I recently discovered a service called Claimyr that got me through to a live agent in under 10 minutes when I was dealing with my mom's benefits. Their site is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It saved me hours of redial frustration when I was trying to sort out a similar underpayment issue. Much easier than spending days trying to get through or waiting for a callback that never comes.
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Evelyn Rivera
•I've heard of this! My cousin used it when she couldn't get through about her disability application. Said it was worth it after spending 3 days trying to reach someone!
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Jade Lopez
The form you received (SSA-1724-F4) is specifically for underpayments to deceased beneficiaries, so yes, it's the correct form. Social Security reclaims the final deposit because benefits are paid in arrears - the February 2nd payment covered January. As executor, you're filing for what's called a "partial month payment" for the days your father was alive in January. SSA calculates this internally based on their records - you don't need to specify the amount. If your father was married, his surviving spouse would typically be first in line for this payment. If not, it goes to children or the estate according to SSA's order of priority. Make sure you submit proof of your executor status with the form.
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Owen Jenkins
•Thank you for explaining this so clearly. My father wasn't married (my mother passed years ago), and I'm his only child and the executor. I'll definitely include the executor documents with my submission. Is there anything else I should know about this process that might not be obvious from the form itself?
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Jade Lopez
One other thing to be aware of - the SSA won't just automatically send the payment to the same bank account they reclaimed funds from. They'll either send a paper check to the address you provide on the form, or you can request direct deposit by providing your own bank information in Part II-B of the form. Also, don't forget to apply for the $255 lump-sum death benefit if you haven't already. As his child, you're eligible if there's no surviving spouse.
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Owen Jenkins
•That's really good to know about the payment method - I would have assumed it would go back to his account. I'll definitely fill out the direct deposit section. And thank you for the reminder about the death benefit - I didn't know I could claim that as his child. Should I submit that application at the same time as this underpayment form?
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Julia Hall
Yes, you can submit both forms together. The $255 death benefit application is form SSA-8, and it's fairly straightforward. Just be aware that you typically need to apply for this within two years of the death. One final tip - keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit, and if possible, submit the forms in person at your local SSA office and ask for a receipt. This creates a clear paper trail in case anything gets lost in processing (which happens more often than it should).
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Jackson Carter
•The keeping copies thing is SO IMPORTANT!!!! I learned this the hard way when SS claimed they never got my moms death certificate even though I sent it twice!! Had to start all over again 😡
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Owen Jenkins
Thank you all so much for this helpful information! I feel much more confident about handling this now. I'll make sure to: 1. Complete the SSA-1724-F4 form (without worrying about listing the amount) 2. Include my executor documents and his death certificate 3. Apply for the $255 death benefit with form SSA-8 4. Keep copies of everything 5. Try to submit in person if possible It's frustrating that these processes aren't more clearly explained by SSA, especially during such a difficult time. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share your experiences and advice.
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Kolton Murphy
•You're welcome! And yes, the lack of clear instructions makes everything harder. Don't hesitate to come back and ask if you run into any other issues. We've all been there and understand how overwhelming it can be.
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