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Sofia Ramirez

Social Security filing strategy risks: Lower-earning spouse filing early while higher earner waits until 70

I've been reading about 'optimal' Social Security filing strategies for married couples, and keep seeing the recommendation that the lower-earning spouse (me) should claim at 62, while the higher-earning spouse (my husband) should wait until 70 to maximize their benefit. On paper this seems logical, but I'm concerned about potential downsides I'm not seeing. My FRA is in 2 years (I'm 64), but my husband is pushing me to file now since I was laid off last year. His benefit at FRA will be around $3,100/month while mine would only be about $1,750 at FRA or $1,400 if I file now. What are the potential negatives to this common strategy that financial advisors don't mention? Would filing early affect survivor benefits later? Would it impact healthcare costs through Medicare IRMAA? I don't want to make an irreversible decision just to discover some obscure rule or consequence years later. Has anyone here filed this way and regretted it?

Dmitry Popov

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The biggest consideration is survivor benefits. If you're the lower earner and you claim early, it only permanently reduces YOUR benefit. If your husband passes away first, you would step up to his higher benefit amount regardless of when you claimed your own. BUT if YOU pass away first, he would NOT get your smaller benefit. For most couples where there's a significant difference in benefit amounts, this strategy makes mathematical sense. The only major downside is that you're locking in a permanent reduction to your own benefit. Consider whether you can afford the reduced amount if your husband passes away first and it takes some time for survivor benefits to kick in.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thank you for explaining this! I hadn't thought about the delay between his passing and survivor benefits kicking in. That's exactly the kind of thing I was worried about missing.

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Ava Rodriguez

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Do u know how big the penalty is for claiming early? My wife claimed at 62 and got hit with like a 30% reduction FOREVER. Thats HUGE! Nobody told us that before she filed!!!

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Miguel Ortiz

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The reduction is approximately 5/9 of 1% for each month before FRA, up to 36 months early. Then it becomes 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. At 62 (60 months early), that's a 30% permanent reduction. At 64 (24 months early), it would be about 13.3% reduction from the full benefit amount.

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Zainab Khalil

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One thing that often gets overlooked is how this impacts Medicare premiums later. If you have substantial other income (investments, 401k withdrawals, pensions), filing early could push you into higher IRMAA brackets sooner, increasing your Medicare costs. Also, if you're still working part-time, remember the earnings limit - if you earn above $21,240 in 2025 while collecting benefits before FRA, SSA will withhold $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. Since you were laid off, the earnings limit might not be an issue, but still worth considering if you plan to work again. The tax implications around Social Security can be complex especially when combined with other income sources.

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Sofia Ramirez

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I hadn't even considered the IRMAA implications! We do have some decent retirement savings so this could definitely affect us. Is there a calculator somewhere that can help project these costs?

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QuantumQuest

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I'm in a similar situation and tried calling SSA multiple times to ask these exact questions, but I kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours! So frustrating!!! Finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual person at SSA in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with confirmed that filing early as the lower earner generally doesn't impact survivor benefits later on, which was my main concern. Such a relief to get a definitive answer from SSA directly!

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Connor Murphy

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does that service cost money? the SSA phone lines are HORRIBLE. I've been trying for 2 weeks to talk to someone about my application

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Miguel Ortiz

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This is a common strategy that generally works well mathematically, but there are nuances worth considering: 1) Spousal benefits - If your husband's benefit is significantly higher, you might be eligible for spousal benefits when he files. If you've already claimed early, your spousal benefit would be reduced. 2) Widow(er) benefits - If your husband passes away, you'd receive his full benefit amount in place of yours (assuming it's higher). Your early filing doesn't reduce widow benefits. 3) Longevity analysis - This strategy works best if the higher-earning spouse lives a long time, maximizing the value of their delayed credits. If the higher earner passes away relatively early, waiting until 70 may not have been optimal. 4) Financial need - Sometimes the best theoretical strategy isn't practical due to current financial needs. I recommend looking at a Social Security calculator that can model your specific situation. The SSA website has one, or financial planners often have more sophisticated tools.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thank you for this detailed breakdown. I think we need to look more closely at the spousal benefit implications - I didn't realize my early filing could affect that amount too.

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Yara Haddad

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I did exactly what your considering! Filed at 63 while my husband waited till 70. Two years in and i regret it!! My check is so small after Medicare premiums, and we didn't realize how the tax situation would work with his income. Now my entire SS gets taxed at the highest rate because of our combined income. Should have just waited and lived off more savings instead.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Oh no! That's exactly what I'm afraid of. Do you mind sharing more about how the tax situation works? I thought only a portion of SS benefits could be taxed.

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Zainab Khalil

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This brings up an important point about taxation. Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds. For married couples filing jointly, if combined income exceeds $44,000, up to 85% of benefits are taxable. So if your husband has substantial income from other sources, most of your SS benefits would be subject to income tax regardless of when you file. This is one of those details that can make a significant difference in the actual take-home value of your benefits that many advisors don't fully explain.

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Yara Haddad

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YES! This is exactly what happened to us. And it feels like I'm getting penalized twice - first with the permanent reduction for filing early, and second by having almost all of it taxed away. Such a bad deal.

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Ava Rodriguez

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wait a sec... what about if the person who files early dies first? does that mess things up for the surviving spouse?

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Dmitry Popov

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No, if the lower-earning spouse who filed early dies first, it actually doesn't impact the higher-earning spouse's benefits at all. Since the survivor would only be entitled to the higher of the two benefit amounts, the higher earner would just continue receiving their own benefit. This is another reason the strategy often makes mathematical sense.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thank you all for these responses - they've been incredibly helpful. I'm going to hold off on filing for now and do more research into the spousal benefit implications and tax situation. I think we need to run some actual numbers and maybe consult with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security strategies. It seems like the standard advice isn't necessarily wrong, but there are all these little gotchas around Medicare premiums, tax implications, and spousal benefits that could make a big difference for our specific situation. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences!

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Miguel Ortiz

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That's a wise approach. Each couple's optimal filing strategy depends on their unique circumstances, including health status, other income sources, life expectancy, and immediate financial needs. A specialist can help model various scenarios based on your specific situation.

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Collins Angel

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Smart decision to pause and do more research! One additional factor to consider that I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're planning to work again after your layoff, filing early could actually cost you money through the earnings test. Even part-time work that puts you over the $21,240 limit means SSA withholds benefits dollar-for-dollar above that threshold. Also, since you mentioned being laid off, make sure you've explored all your unemployment benefits and COBRA options first. Sometimes the immediate financial pressure to file early isn't as urgent as it initially seems when you factor in these other safety nets. The permanent 13% reduction at 64 vs waiting until FRA might not be worth it if you can bridge the gap with other resources for just two more years.

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Paolo Rizzo

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This is such a great point about the earnings test that I hadn't fully considered! I was actually thinking about doing some freelance consulting work to help with finances, but if that could trigger benefit withholding, it might actually make more sense to wait until FRA when the earnings limit disappears. The COBRA suggestion is also really helpful - I've been so focused on the Social Security decision that I haven't fully explored how long I could extend my current health coverage. Two years suddenly seems much more manageable when you put it in perspective like this. Thank you for adding this practical angle to the discussion!

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TechNinja

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Another consideration that hasn't been fully explored is the impact on your future ability to switch strategies if circumstances change. Once you file for early retirement benefits, you generally can't undo that decision (the "do-over" option is very limited and only available within 12 months of first claiming). However, there's something called "voluntary suspension" that higher earners can use after reaching FRA to restart earning delayed retirement credits until age 70. But this strategy isn't available to someone who filed early - you're locked into that reduced benefit path. Also, keep in mind that if you're considering working again, the earnings test applies differently depending on what year you reach FRA. In the year you reach FRA, the earnings limit is higher ($56,520 for 2025) and only earnings before the month you reach FRA count against the limit. This might give you more flexibility than you think if you're planning to do consulting work in the next couple years. Given your layoff situation, have you looked into whether you might qualify for any hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts that could bridge the gap without the permanent Social Security reduction?

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Samantha Hall

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This is really valuable information about the voluntary suspension option and how filing early locks you out of future flexibility! I hadn't realized that once you file early, you lose access to strategies that might become beneficial later. The hardship withdrawal suggestion is also something I should explore - we do have a decent 401k that might allow penalty-free withdrawals due to unemployment. It sounds like there are more ways to bridge this 2-year gap than I initially thought, which makes waiting for FRA seem much more feasible. Thank you for highlighting these lesser-known aspects of the rules!

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Aisha Jackson

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One aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet is how filing early could impact your Medicare Part B enrollment timing and costs. Since you're 64 and were recently laid off, you'll likely be enrolling in Medicare soon. If you're receiving Social Security benefits when you become Medicare-eligible, you'll be automatically enrolled in Part B (unless you opt out), and the premiums will be deducted from your Social Security check. However, if your Social Security benefit is small due to early filing, and you later face IRMAA surcharges due to higher household income, your net Social Security payment could become quite small or even negative in some cases. I've seen situations where people's entire Social Security benefit gets eaten up by Medicare premiums and IRMAA penalties. Also, since you mentioned being laid off, make sure you understand how COBRA continuation coverage interacts with Medicare eligibility. You generally can't have both, so timing your Social Security filing decision around your healthcare transition is important. The two-year wait until FRA might give you more time to plan this healthcare transition more strategically, especially since Medicare enrollment has its own complex timing rules and penalties for late enrollment.

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This is such an important point about Medicare coordination that I completely overlooked! The idea that IRMAA surcharges could potentially wipe out a small Social Security benefit is honestly terrifying. I hadn't even thought about how the automatic Part B enrollment works when you're already receiving Social Security benefits. Since I'm turning 65 next year, this Medicare timing consideration might actually be the deciding factor for me. I need to understand these enrollment deadlines and how they interact with Social Security filing decisions. Do you know if there are resources that can help map out this timing, or is this something I should discuss with Medicare directly? The complexity of coordinating all these different systems is overwhelming, but your comment really highlights why rushing into early filing could create problems I hadn't even considered.

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Emma Bianchi

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I'm glad I found this discussion as I'm facing a similar decision at 63. What really concerns me after reading through all these responses is how many "hidden" consequences there seem to be that aren't clearly explained upfront. The Medicare IRMAA interaction, the tax implications with combined income, losing flexibility for future strategy changes - it feels like there are landmines everywhere. Has anyone here worked with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security? I'm starting to think the complexity of all these intersecting rules (Social Security, Medicare, taxes, spousal benefits) really requires professional analysis rather than trying to piece it together from general advice articles. The stakes feel too high to get this wrong, especially after reading about people who filed early and regretted it due to unforeseen consequences. Also, for those who mentioned calling SSA directly - beyond the service that QuantumQuest mentioned, has anyone had success getting detailed answers about these complex scenarios from SSA representatives? I worry about getting different answers from different agents about the same question.

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