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Social Security benefit amount confusion after stopping work at 64 - SSA phone info contradicts my SS app

I'm completely confused about my Social Security retirement benefits now. I'm 64 and a half, worked consistently since I was 22, and just stopped working two weeks ago to move across the country to care for my mom who's battling cancer. Before I left, I called the Social Security office to make sure my benefit wouldn't decrease if I stopped working now but waited until my Full Retirement Age (66 and 10 months) to actually claim. The SSA rep told me very clearly my benefits would NEVER go down from what they are now even if I don't work another day until FRA. But when I checked my Social Security account through the app yesterday, it's showing a LOWER projected benefit amount than what I saw before I quit! Now I don't know who to believe - the SSA representative or the app. Has anyone else experienced this discrepancy? Which one is actually correct? This is really stressful because I based my caregiving decision partly on what that SSA rep told me.

The phone rep was probably referring to your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) based on the earnings you've already accumulated. This generally won't decrease if you stop working. However, the app might be showing a recalculated projection because it's now accounting for zero future earnings instead of projected continued work. Your actual benefit depends on your highest 35 years of earnings. If you don't have 35 years of work, zeros get averaged in, which could explain the drop in the app projection. Check how many years of earnings you have on your Social Security statement.

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Thanks for explaining. I think I have around 42 years of work history, so I should have the full 35 years of earnings. Is there a way to verify exactly what my benefit will be at FRA if I don't work anymore until then? I'm worried about making financial plans based on incorrect information.

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Mei Lin

the app is usually right but sometimes it takes time to update. my benefit amount changed 3 times in one month on the app lol. call them again and ask for a supervisor maybe??

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I'll try calling again, but it's so frustrating. Last time I was on hold for over an hour before I got disconnected. Maybe I need to go to an actual office.

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I had EXACTLY the same thing happen!!! The numbers on my SS app kept changing and gave me different amounts every time I logged in. It was giving me a HEART ATTACK because I was trying to decide when to retire. I was 63 and the difference was almost $300/month between what the rep told me and what the app showed. I STILL don't know which one is right and I already filed for benefits. The whole system is a MESS!!

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Oh no, that's really concerning. Did you ever figure out which number was correct? Did you get what the rep promised or what the app showed? I'm really worried about making a huge financial mistake here.

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The discrepancy you're seeing is probably due to how the app calculates projected benefits versus what the SSA representative was explaining. The app likely adjusted its projection when your employment status changed. However, your actual benefit at FRA is based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. If you have 42 years of work history, stopping now shouldn't reduce your benefit unless your recent earnings were among your highest 35 years (which is possible if your salary increased over time). To get clarity, I recommend requesting a detailed earnings record and benefit calculation from SSA. This will show exactly which years are being counted in your top 35 and how your PIA is calculated.

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This is spot on. I worked for many years with the Social Security Administration, and benefit calculations can be complex. One thing to note - if your recent earnings are higher than some of your earlier years (which is likely after a 42-year career), then those recent earnings would have replaced lower years in your calculation. By stopping work now, you're potentially missing out on replacing some lower-earning years with higher-earning ones, which could explain the projected decrease.

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Mei Lin

does this actually work? ive never heard of it before but im desperate to talk to someone at ssa without waiting 3 hours

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Yes, it did work for me. I was skeptical too but I was getting nowhere trying to call directly. The rep I spoke with was able to explain the calculation discrepancy I was seeing, which was similar to what the original poster is experiencing.

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My wife went through this exact thing last year. Quit her job at 63 to take care of her dad and was worried about her SS amount. We ended up going to the local office in person and they printed out her actual benefit calculation based on her work record. Turned out her benefit DID go down slightly from what she had seen before because her last 2 years of work were actually her highest earning years. But it wasn't a huge difference. But yeah the app and the phone people don't always match up.

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Thanks for sharing that experience. I'm starting to think I need to visit an office in person too. My last few years were actually my highest earning years as well, so maybe that's what's causing the discrepancy. Good to know the difference wasn't huge for your wife.

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WAIT! You need to know about the recalculation they do! When you stop working they recalculate your benefit based on your HIGHEST 35 years of adjusted earnings. If your recent years were higher than some older years (they adjust for inflation btw), then yes, stopping work NOW means those potential higher earning years won't replace lower ones from the past. The SSA phone people just give generic answers sometimes without looking at YOUR SPECIFIC earnings history. The app is probably showing a more accurate projection because it's updated based on your current situation!!

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This is correct. It's important to understand that SSA calculates your benefit using your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. If your recent years would have replaced lower-earning years in your calculation (which is likely after a 42-year career with presumably increasing income), then stopping work now could indeed affect your final benefit amount. The app is likely showing the updated projection based on your current earnings record without projecting future earnings.

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Mei Lin

anybody know if taking care of a sick parent counts for anything with social security? like do u get credits or something for being a caregiver?

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Unfortunately, Social Security doesn't provide work credits for caring for family members. However, there are some states that have paid family leave programs that might provide some income during caregiving periods. It varies by state though. This wouldn't affect your Social Security record directly, but at least provides some income while caregiving.

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To definitively resolve this, you need to request a detailed earnings record and benefit calculation from SSA. They can provide a year-by-year breakdown showing exactly which 35 years are being used in your calculation and how changes in future earnings might affect your benefit amount. This is the only way to get complete clarity on your specific situation. One tip: When you speak with SSA, specifically ask for your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) based on your current earnings record, and ask them to explain how continued work until FRA might have changed that amount. Be persistent in getting a detailed explanation rather than a general answer.

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