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Layla Sanders

Social Security FRA confusion - born in January, FRA is 66 and 10 months, when exactly do I apply?

I'm trying to wrap my head around my Full Retirement Age deadline. My birth month is January 1958, and my FRA is 66 and 10 months according to the SSA website. Does this mean my actual FRA is in November 2024? And if that's right, should I submit my application in November for benefits to start in December? I've heard you should apply 3-4 months before you want benefits to begin, but I'm not sure if that applies when you're waiting until FRA exactly. I don't want to mess this up and accidentally file early or lose any money. Thanks for any help sorting this out!

Yes, if you were born in January 1958, your FRA would be November 2024 (66 years and 10 months after your birth month). You can apply up to 4 months before you want your benefits to begin. So if you want benefits to start in December 2024 (the month after you reach FRA), you could apply as early as August 2024. When you apply, you'll specify the month you want benefits to begin. I'd recommend selecting December 2024 as your start month to ensure you're at FRA when benefits begin.

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Layla Sanders

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Thank you! That makes sense. So I can apply in August and just tell them I want December as my start date? Will they try to push me to start earlier or is it pretty straightforward to choose my start month?

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Kaylee Cook

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i went thru this last yr... born in march and fra was 66+8mo so mine was in november. applied in august for december start. MAKE SURE you specify december as start date when u apply!!! they default to earliest date if u dont pay attention!! almost cost me $$

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Layla Sanders

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Oh wow, thanks for the warning! I definitely don't want them to default to an earlier date. I'll make sure to double-check that part of the application carefully.

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To be precise about this: Your FRA is calculated as 66 years and 10 months from your birth month. If you were born in January 1958, you reach FRA in November 2024. However, Social Security benefits are paid in the month FOLLOWING the month they're due for. So your November 2024 benefit payment (your first at FRA) would actually arrive in December 2024. When applying, you'll select your "entitlement date" or "start month" - make sure this is November 2024 if you want to start at exactly FRA. The actual payment will come in December. You can apply up to 4 months before your intended start date, so applying in July/August 2024 would be ideal timing.

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Layla Sanders

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Wait, now I'm confused again. Should I select November or December as my start month? I want to make sure I'm at FRA and not filing early, but I also want to get my first payment as soon as I'm eligible.

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Lara Woods

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When my husband applied last year they made it SO CONFUSING on the website! He had to call and talk to a representative to make sure he was doing it right. The online form was really unclear about which month was which and we were terrified of accidentally filing early. Have you tried calling SSA directly? You might be on hold for hours though... that's what happened to us.

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Adrian Hughes

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My situation was similar to yours! The month you REACH FRA is when you become eligible for full benefits, but you'd select that month (November in your case) as your start month, and then the payment arrives the following month (December). Does anyone know if theres a financial advantage to waiting until January to start? Like does the COLA for 2025 get applied if you wait until January?

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Good question about the COLA. If you select December 2024 (or earlier) as your start month, your benefit amount would be established before the 2025 COLA is applied. The COLA would then be added to that amount in January. If you waited and selected January 2025 as your start month, your initial benefit calculation would already include the 2025 COLA adjustment. However, delaying from December to January just for the COLA doesn't typically provide any financial advantage, as you'd be giving up a month of benefits to get the COLA applied to your initial calculation rather than added a month later - it works out the same financially.

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Ian Armstrong

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everyone making this way more complicated than it needs to be!! just do what i did - go on ssa.gov, hit apply for retirement, and follow the steps. they ask you what month you want to start. pick november if thats when you hit fra. done!

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Layla Sanders

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Thanks for the straightforward approach! So November is definitely the right month to select, not December. I'll make sure to choose November as my start date when I apply.

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To clarify what appears to be causing confusion: 1. Your Full Retirement Age (FRA) is reached in November 2024 (66 years and 10 months after January 1958) 2. When applying, you should select November 2024 as your benefit start month/entitlement date 3. Social Security benefits are paid in the month AFTER they're due, so your November benefit payment will arrive in December This is not the same as selecting December as your start month, which would mean your entitlement begins in December and you'd receive that payment in January. And yes, you can apply up to 4 months before your intended start date.

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Layla Sanders

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Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! So I reach FRA in November, should select November as my start month on the application, and will receive my first payment in December. I'll plan to apply in August to give SSA plenty of time to process everything.

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Kaylee Cook

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one more thing!!! make sure u have all ur docs ready when u apply - birth certificate, marriage certificate if ur married, direct deposit info... they wont process ur application without them and it can delay everything!!

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Ryder Ross

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Great advice about having documents ready! I'd also recommend creating a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you haven't already - it shows your estimated benefits and FRA details, plus you can track your application status once you submit it. Having that account set up beforehand made the application process much smoother for me. You can also download your Social Security Statement from there which has all your earnings history if you need it for reference.

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That's really helpful about the my Social Security account! I actually haven't set one up yet, so I'll definitely do that before I apply. Being able to see my exact estimated benefits and track the application sounds like it would give me peace of mind. Thanks for the tip about downloading the Social Security Statement too - I might need that for my records.

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Just wanted to add - when you're getting close to your application date, double-check your FRA calculation one more time on the SSA website. I thought I had it figured out but realized I had miscalculated by a month! Also, if you're still working when you apply, make sure you understand the earnings test rules. Even though you'll be at FRA, if you're earning above certain limits before you actually reach FRA, it can affect your benefits. The SSA website has a good earnings test calculator that helped me figure out if I needed to worry about this or not.

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That's a great point about double-checking the FRA calculation! I've been so focused on getting the application timing right that I didn't think about verifying my FRA date one more time closer to when I apply. And thanks for mentioning the earnings test - I am planning to keep working part-time after I start collecting, so I should definitely look into that calculator to make sure I understand how my earnings might affect things. Better to know all this upfront than be surprised later!

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Fidel Carson

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As someone who just went through this process a few months ago, I want to emphasize how important it is to triple-check everything before you submit. I made the mistake of rushing through my application and accidentally selected the wrong start month initially - thankfully I caught it during the review process and was able to correct it. A few tips that helped me: 1) Print out or screenshot the SSA's FRA chart for your birth year so you have it handy during application, 2) Use their retirement estimator tool to see exactly what your benefit amount will be for different start dates - this really helped me visualize the impact of my choices, and 3) Don't hesitate to save your application as a draft and come back to it if you need time to think or gather documents. The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to approval for me, and my first payment arrived right on schedule. You've got this!

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Yara Elias

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I really appreciate you sharing your experience - it makes me feel more confident about the process. The tip about printing out the FRA chart is brilliant, and I definitely want to use that retirement estimator tool to see the different benefit amounts. I tend to second-guess myself on important forms like this, so knowing I can save it as a draft and take my time is reassuring. It's also good to know the timeline - 3 weeks from application to approval sounds very reasonable. Thanks for the encouragement!

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I went through this exact same situation last year - born January 1958, FRA of 66+10 months. Just to confirm what others have said: your FRA is November 2024, you should select November as your start month when applying, and your first payment will arrive in December. One thing I wish someone had told me - when you're filling out the application online, there's a section where it asks about your "retirement month" and it can be confusing because it shows different options. Make absolutely sure you're selecting November 2024 as when you want your benefits to BEGIN, not when you want to receive your first payment. Also, I applied in July (4 months early) and everything went smoothly. The key is having all your documents ready and double-checking that start date before you submit. Good luck!

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This is so helpful to hear from someone with the exact same birth month and situation! I was getting a bit overwhelmed with all the different advice, but having confirmation from someone who actually went through this process successfully really puts my mind at ease. The clarification about the "retirement month" section is especially valuable - I can see how that could be confusing on the application. I'm planning to apply in August, so it sounds like I'm on the right track timing-wise. Thank you for sharing your experience and the encouragement!

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Omar Zaki

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I'm in a very similar situation - born February 1958, so my FRA is also 66 and 10 months, which means December 2024 for me. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I was also confused about the timing and which month to select. One question I have - has anyone dealt with spousal benefits in this situation? My wife is a few years younger and won't reach her FRA until later. I'm wondering if there are any special considerations when one spouse is applying at FRA while the other is still working and won't be eligible for a while. Should I be thinking about spousal benefit strategies or does that not matter when I'm applying right at my FRA? Also, for those who have gone through the process - did you get any kind of confirmation or receipt after submitting your online application? I want to make sure I have documentation that I applied on time.

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Avery Davis

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Great questions! Regarding spousal benefits - since you're applying right at your FRA, you don't need to worry about any reduction in your own benefits. Your wife won't be able to claim spousal benefits on your record until she's at least 62, and if she claims before her own FRA, her spousal benefit would be reduced. The good news is that your decision to claim at FRA doesn't negatively impact her future options. As for confirmation - yes, you should get an email confirmation immediately after submitting your online application, and then you can track the status through your my Social Security account. I'd recommend taking screenshots of your completed application before submitting, just for your records. You'll also receive a formal notice by mail once your application is processed. Make sure to keep all of these for your files! Since you're born in February 1958, you're right that your FRA is December 2024. You could apply as early as August 2024 for benefits to start in December. The same advice applies - select December as your start month on the application.

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I'm also facing this same timing decision and wanted to share something I learned from my local SSA office visit last week. The representative emphasized that when you're born in January of any year, you actually reach your birthday month age on the first day of that month for Social Security purposes. So if you were born in January 1958, you're considered to reach age 66 on January 1, 2024, and then your additional 10 months would put your FRA at November 1, 2024. What really helped me understand this was asking the SSA rep to show me exactly how they calculate it in their system. She pulled up my record and walked through it step by step. This might be worth doing if you have any lingering doubts - even though it can be hard to get through on the phone, visiting a local office (with an appointment if possible) can give you that face-to-face confirmation. One more tip - when I was there, she showed me how the online application has a "preview" feature before you submit where you can see exactly what benefits will start when. Use that preview to double-check everything looks right before hitting submit!

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NeonNebula

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That's really valuable insight about visiting the local SSA office! I hadn't thought about making an appointment to have someone walk through the calculation in person, but that sounds like it would eliminate any remaining confusion. The preview feature tip is also great - I definitely want to use that to double-check everything before submitting. It's reassuring to know that they can show you exactly how it calculates in their system. I might try to schedule a visit just to have that extra peace of mind, especially since this is such an important decision. Thanks for sharing what you learned!

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