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Victoria Scott

SSDI to retirement at FRA (67) - will my benefit amount change? Also questions about ex-spouse benefits

I've been receiving SSDI for about 20 years now (haven't worked since my mid-40s) and I'm turning 65 next month. I know my disability automatically converts to retirement benefits when I reach my full retirement age at 67, but I'm worried about whether my payment amount will change. Currently getting about $1,890 monthly from SSDI. When it converts at 67, will that amount stay the same, go up, or go down? Does it make any difference that I've been on disability instead of taking early retirement? Also wondering about ex-spouse benefits. We were married 12 years and divorced 15 years ago. I heard I might qualify for some additional money based on his work record? He made a lot more than me before I became disabled. If I'm getting $1,890 now, how much would he need to be receiving for me to get any "top off" amount? And does my long-term disability insurance that runs until 67 affect any of this? Sorry for all the questions - trying to budget for the next few years and getting confused by all the different rules.

Your SSDI benefit will convert to retirement at exactly the same amount when you reach 67. There's no penalty or bonus for having been on disability - it's calculated the same way as if you'd reached full retirement age (FRA) normally. The only difference is that the name changes from "disability" to "retirement" benefits. Regarding your ex-spouse benefit: You may be eligible for up to 50% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) at your full retirement age IF that amount is higher than your own benefit. So if he's getting $4,000 in benefits, 50% would be $2,000, which is more than your current $1,890, so you'd get a small top-up of $110. But if 50% of his benefit is less than your $1,890, you won't get anything additional.

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Thank you for explaining! So there's no advantage or disadvantage to having been on disability when it converts? That's a relief. About the ex-spouse benefit - do you know if there's a minimum amount he needs to be receiving for me to qualify for anything? And do I need to apply for this separately or will SSA just add it automatically when I reach 67?

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Just to add to what was shared - the transition from SSDI to retirement benefits at your FRA is completely automatic. You won't need to do anything, and you'll continue to receive the same monthly amount without interruption. One important note: Your long-term disability insurance that runs until 67 might be affected. Many private LTD policies reduce their payment by the amount you receive from Social Security. Check your policy because some require you to apply for retirement at 62 (early retirement) even though your SSDI continues until 67. If your policy doesn't specify this requirement, you're fine keeping SSDI until it automatically converts.

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my uncle had this exact situation and his LTD insurance company tried to force him to take early SS at 62 even tho he was on SSDI! they had to back down when he showed them the policy language that only said he had to apply for "social security disability benefits" which he already had. check your paperwork!!

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I went through this last year. When my SSDI switched to retirement at my FRA, NOTHING changed except the name of the benefit. Same payment amount, same payment date. They didn't even send me a notice - it just happened behind the scenes! BUT you DO need to apply separately for ex-spouse benefits!!! SSA doesn't know you were married unless you tell them. Go to your local office with your marriage certificate and divorce decree at least 3-4 months before you turn 67. If your ex hasn't filed for his benefits yet, you might have to wait until he does (unless he's over 62 and you've been divorced for over 2 years). And the LTD payment WILL probably change when you hit 67 - most policies stop completely at that point. Check your policy!!

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Oh wow, I need to find my marriage certificate from 30 years ago! I didn't realize I needed to apply separately for the ex-spouse portion. Thanks for the heads up. And yes, my LTD is definitely ending at 67 - that's why I'm trying to figure out all this Social Security stuff now.

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Are you sure about the amount? I thought disability was less than retirement. My neighbor said her check went up when she switched over. Maybe it depends on how much you worked before becoming disabled?

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Your neighbor may have misunderstood something else that happened. SSDI and retirement benefits at FRA are calculated using the same formula - there is no difference in the amount. What might have happened is she received a COLA increase around the same time as her conversion, or she became eligible for some other benefit (like a spouse benefit) that increased her total payment. But the conversion itself doesn't change the benefit amount.

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For the ex-spouse benefit, he would need to have a PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) of at least double what you're getting for you to qualify for any additional amount as an ex-spouse. So with your $1,890, he would need a PIA of at least $3,780 for you to potentially get any top-up benefit. I tried for MONTHS to get through to SSA about my ex-spouse benefits last year. Every time I called, I'd wait for 2+ hours and then get disconnected. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it for saving hours of frustration, especially for something complex like ex-spouse benefits where you really need to talk to a knowledgeable person.

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i heard about that service too! my daughter used it when she needed to fix something with her SS card. said it saved her like 3 hours of waiting on hold

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my mom went from ssdi to retirement last year and she said nothing changed with her payment. they just sent her a letter saying congrats your now on retirement instead of disability lol. but she did say she wished she looked into the spouse benefit thing sooner cause she didnt know about it til after and ended up missing a few months of higher payments! dont wait to ask them about it

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That's really good to know! I'll definitely make sure to ask about the ex-spouse benefit well before I hit 67. I don't want to miss out on any money I might be eligible for.

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WAIT A MINUTE! Has anyone mentioned the WEP/GPO rules to you?? If you get a pension from work not covered by Social Security (like some government jobs), that can DRASTICALLY reduce any spousal benefits you might be entitled to. The Government Pension Offset can reduce spousal benefits by 2/3 of your non-covered pension amount. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!

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No need to worry about WEP/GPO in my case - I only worked in Social Security covered jobs. My disability is from a medical condition, not a work-related injury, and I don't receive any government pension. But thanks for bringing that up - might be helpful for someone else reading this thread.

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One more important thing - when applying for the ex-spouse benefit, you don't need to contact your ex. SSA doesn't notify them that you're applying for benefits on their record. You'll need: 1. Your marriage certificate 2. Your divorce decree 3. Your ex's Social Security number (if you know it) If you don't have your ex's SSN, SSA can usually find it with his name and date of birth. The benefit processing can take 2-3 months, so apply at least 3-4 months before turning 67 to avoid missing any payments.

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THIS! When I applied for ex-spouse benefits I was terrified they would contact my ex (we had a very bad divorce). The SSA agent assured me multiple times that they NEVER contact the ex-spouse when processing these claims. Your ex won't know unless you tell them.

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so ur ltd insurance stops at 67 and then u just get ss? does that mean ull get less money each month? that sounds scary

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Yes, my monthly income will go down when the LTD stops. That's why I'm trying to figure out if there's any way to maximize my Social Security benefits! If I can get even a small amount from the ex-spouse benefit, it would help.

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Make sure you look into Medicare too if you haven't already. Since you've been on SSDI for 2+ years, you should already have Medicare Parts A and B, but it's a good time to review if your plan choices are still the best for you as you transition to retirement. Sometimes people don't realize they have different options once they're past 65.

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That's a good reminder - I do have Medicare from being on SSDI. I have Parts A, B and D right now, and I've been pretty happy with my coverage. Should I be looking at anything specific as I transition to regular retirement?

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this transition two years ago! Your SSDI will convert seamlessly to retirement benefits at 67 with no change in amount - that part is automatic and stress-free. For the ex-spouse benefit, definitely start the paperwork process early. In my case, I had to dig through old boxes to find my marriage certificate, and it took longer than expected. One tip: if you can't find the original marriage certificate, you can usually get a certified copy from the county clerk's office where you got married. They often have online ordering now. Also, regarding your LTD insurance ending - have you looked into whether you might qualify for any state benefits or programs once that income stops? Some states have supplemental programs for people transitioning off disability insurance. It might be worth checking with your state's disability services office. The Medicare review suggestion is spot-on too. Even though your coverage won't change dramatically, it's worth doing an annual review during open enrollment to make sure you're getting the best value for your needs.

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