How much will Social Security benefits increase by replacing 5 zero-income years with $80k earnings?
Looking for some guidance from those who understand SS benefit calculations better than I do. I'm currently 57 and reviewing my earnings record. I have 5 years with zero income (took time off to care for my parents in their final years). Now I have an opportunity to work for the next 5 years making around $80k annually before I retire. I'm trying to figure out approximately how much this would increase my monthly Social Security benefit when I eventually claim at my full retirement age (67). My current estimated benefit at FRA is $1,650/month according to my most recent statement. I understand Social Security uses the highest 35 years of earnings, so replacing zeros should help, but I have no idea how to calculate the impact. Is there a simple way to estimate how much those 5 years at $80k would bump up my monthly check? Thanks in advance for any insights!
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Isaiah Sanders
You can check this on the SSA calculator online. Its not exactly a simple calculation bc it takes all your lifetime earnings into account but replacing 0 years will definitely help!
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Fidel Carson
•Thanks, I'll try the calculator. I was hoping someone might have a ballpark figure or percentage based on similar experiences. The SSA website can be confusing to navigate sometimes.
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Xan Dae
To give you a rough estimate, replacing 5 zero-income years with $80k earnings could increase your monthly benefit by approximately 10-15%. This is because Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings (indexed for inflation) to calculate your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME), which then determines your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). If you currently have 5 zeros in your calculation, replacing them with substantial earnings will definitely improve your benefit. The exact amount depends on your overall earnings history, but I'd expect your $1,650 to increase to somewhere between $1,815-$1,900 per month. You can get a more precise estimate using the detailed calculator on the SSA website (not the quick calculator): https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/anypia/anypia.html
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Fidel Carson
•Thank you so much! That 10-15% estimate is exactly the kind of ballpark figure I was hoping for. That would be a meaningful increase over the course of retirement. I'll check out that detailed calculator too.
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Fiona Gallagher
my brother did something similar. had like 6 or 7 zero years and went back to work. his benefit went up almost $300 a month! but he was making over 100k so yours might be a bit less. good luck!
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Fidel Carson
•That's encouraging to hear! Even if mine goes up less than your brother's, every bit helps for retirement planning. Thanks for sharing his experience.
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Thais Soares
I'm in a similar situation and spent HOURS trying to get through to someone at SSA who could explain this clearly. After getting disconnected three times and being on hold for 2+ hours, I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real SSA agent in under 20 minutes. The agent walked me through my specific calculation and explained how new income would impact my benefit. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The SSA agent told me that each zero year I replaced added about 2-3% to my monthly benefit, which sounds similar to what others are saying here. For 5 years, that could be 10-15% increase.
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Nalani Liu
•does that service actually work? ive tried calling ssa like 10x and always get disconnected
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Thais Soares
•Yes it worked for me! Was skeptical at first but after trying for weeks to get through on my own, it was worth it to finally talk to someone who could answer my questions about my specific situation.
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Axel Bourke
The impact will depend on where those $80k years would rank in your top 35 years of earnings. Social Security applies an inflation adjustment to your past earnings (called indexing), so $30k earned in 1990 might be equivalent to $80k today in the formula. That said, replacing 5 zeros with substantial earnings will definitely help. Your benefit is calculated using a formula that gives you: - 90% of your first $1,115 of AIME - 32% of your AIME between $1,115 and $6,721 - 15% of your AIME over $6,721 If your current AIME puts you in the 32% bracket (which is likely based on your estimated benefit), then replacing zeros could give you a nice boost. The 10-15% increase mentioned by others sounds reasonable, which would be an extra $165-$247 per month. If you want to see exactly how this works with your earnings record, you need to create a my Social Security account and download your earnings history, then use the detailed calculator.
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Aidan Percy
•I thought they used the highest 30 years not 35??? The SSA website is so confusing about this stuff!
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Axel Bourke
•No, it's definitely the highest 35 years. If you don't have 35 years of earnings, they'll fill in the missing years with zeros, which lowers your average. That's why replacing zero years has such a significant impact on benefits.
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Nalani Liu
wouldn't it be better to work longer than 5 years if you can? like what if you worked 7 years instead at 80k?
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Fidel Carson
•That's a good question. I'm limited to 5 years due to some family commitments coming up after that. But you're right that working longer would probably increase benefits further, especially if it replaced more low-earning years in my record.
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Aidan Percy
I just went through this EXACT same situation last year!!! I had 4 zero years and went back to work making about $75k. When I checked my SS statement online after a year, my monthly benefit at FRA went up by about $120. So for you with 5 years and slightly higher salary, maybe you'd see $150-200 increase? Just my experience tho, YMMV. BTW the way they calculate this stuff is CRAZY complicated. I tried to understand it and just gave up lol. The bend points and indexing and all that made my head spin!!!
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Fidel Carson
•Thank you for sharing your real-world experience! That's really helpful to know what kind of increase you saw. And yes, I tried reading about the calculation method and quickly got overwhelmed too!
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Fiona Gallagher
dont forget taxes tho. if ur making more money your ss benefits might get taxed more when u retire! something to think about
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Xan Dae
•Good point about taxation. However, the taxation of Social Security benefits is based on your combined income during retirement (including half of SS benefits + other income sources), not on how much you earned during your working years. Higher lifetime earnings do mean higher benefits, which could push you into the range where benefits are partially taxable if you have other substantial income in retirement.
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Isaiah Sanders
Has anybody else noticed their estimated benefit on the SS statement change a lot from year to year even when nothing major changed in income? Mine jumps around and makes me nervous about planning.
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Axel Bourke
•This typically happens because the SSA regularly updates the national average wage index and inflation factors used in benefit calculations. Also, their estimates make assumptions about your future earnings that may change from year to year. For accurate planning, it's best to download your earnings history and use their detailed calculator where you can input exact future earnings.
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