Disabled at 44 with 29 work credits - denied SSDI but on Medicare - can I get Social Security at FRA?
I'm really confused about my Social Security eligibility and getting conflicting information. I became disabled at age 44 with 29 work credits to my name. Before my disability, I spent about 10 years working as a county administrator where I didn't pay into FICA (we had a separate pension system). When I applied for SSDI, I was denied due to insufficient recent work credits under Social Security coverage. Oddly enough, I was approved for Medicare despite the SSDI denial. Here's what's bothering me: THREE different SSA representatives have told me I won't be eligible for ANY Social Security retirement benefits when I reach my full retirement age (66) because I don't have the full 40 credits. But this seems wrong to me - I thought if you became disabled before retirement age with enough credits for your age (which I had - needed 20 credits in the 10 years before disability and had 29 total), you should still qualify for benefits at retirement age. Does anyone know if the reps are giving me incorrect information? Where can I find definitive answers about this situation? I can't work anymore and I'm worried about my future income.
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Yara Nassar
I went through almost the same exact situation! Disabled at 47, had 32 credits but spent several years in state government. SSA reps kept telling me different things every time I called. What finally worked for me was using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to reach an actual SSA agent within 5 minutes instead of waiting for hours. Their video shows exactly how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Through them, I got connected to a Technical Expert who actually understood my case. Turns out the regular phone reps were COMPLETELY WRONG in my situation - check if you qualify for a frozen period of disability which can protect your eligibility despite not having 40 credits. Don't just accept what the regular reps tell you!
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QuantumQuester
•Wow, I've never heard of a 'frozen period of disability' before. None of the reps mentioned this to me. I'll definitely check out that Claimyr service - spending hours on hold just to get wrong information has been incredibly frustrating. Did you have to provide any special documentation to the Technical Expert to prove your case?
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Keisha Williams
This is EXACTLY why I hate dealing with SSA!!! Every rep tells you something completely different and half of them don't know what they're talking about!!! I spent 6 MONTHS fighting with them over my husband's disability claim with similar credit issues. They kept changing their story every single time. Document EVERYTHING - get names of who you talk to, record dates, what they tell you. The system is designed to make you give up!!!!
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Paolo Ricci
•So true! My mom went thru similar nightmare last yr. She kept notes of every convo and it saved her when she had to appeal.
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Amina Toure
There's definitely some confusion happening here. Let me clarify a few things: 1) For SSDI, you need both sufficient total credits AND a certain number in recent years (usually 20 credits in the 10 years before disability). That's likely why you were denied SSDI. 2) Medicare eligibility after disability can occur through different paths than SSDI. 3) For retirement benefits, you normally need 40 credits (10 years). However - and this is important - if you were medically determined to be disabled (even if denied SSDI for technical reasons), you might qualify for what's called a "disability freeze." This prevents the years you're disabled from counting against you in benefit calculations. I recommend requesting a formal appointment with a Claims Specialist (not just calling the general line) and specifically ask about "disability freeze" and "medical determination of disability without SSDI benefits." Also ask about how your public service pension might affect things (Windfall Elimination Provision). You should also create an account at my.ssa.gov if you haven't already and check your earnings record and estimated benefits.
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QuantumQuester
•Thank you for this detailed explanation! I've been trying to understand the "disability freeze" concept. Does this mean that even though I was denied SSDI benefits due to insufficient recent covered employment, my medical disability determination could still protect my ability to receive retirement benefits? That's what I've been trying to figure out. I do have a my.ssa.gov account but it shows $0 estimated benefits, which is what prompted my concern.
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Oliver Zimmermann
Based on what you've described, there are several important things to understand: 1. You can qualify for Medicare through multiple paths - SSDI is just one way. The fact you're on Medicare suggests you did receive a medical approval, just not technical approval for SSDI payments. 2. There's a concept called a "period of disability" or "disability freeze" that can help people in your situation. If SSA determined you were medically disabled, this period can be "frozen" when calculating your benefits. 3. The SSA has special rules for retirement benefits if you were found medically disabled before reaching retirement age, even if you didn't qualify for SSDI payments due to technical reasons. In your situation, I'd recommend: - Request your official disability determination letter - Ask specifically about your "disability freeze" status - Inquire about the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and how your public pension affects benefits - Get clarification on whether your Medicare approval indicates you had a medical disability determination Many SSA phone representatives aren't familiar with these special situations. You might need to speak with a Technical Expert or Claims Specialist who handles disability cases.
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Keisha Williams
•This!!! My brother had almost IDENTICAL situation and regular phone reps kept giving wrong info. Ask for Technical Expert SPECIFICALLY or they'll transfer you to random people who don't know these rules!! And the WEP reduction is BRUTAL on benefits if you have a public pension too - they'll slash your SS check. The whole system punishes public servants!!!
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CosmicCommander
my dad had something like this. he worked for the city for 15 years but had some regular jobs too. they told him he wouldn't get ss but then when he turned 67 he got a small check anyway. not much but something. maybe theyre wrong about yours too?
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QuantumQuester
•That's interesting! Did he have the full 40 credits from his combined work history? Or did he receive benefits with fewer credits? That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out - whether I can receive any retirement benefits without the full 40.
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Natasha Volkova
Your on Medicare BUT not getting SSDI? That's weird, usually you have to be on SSDI for 24 months to qualify for Medicare before 65. Maybe you qualified thru a special program? Anyway I'd double-check with SSA again cause those phone ppl mess up ALL the time
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Actually, there are situations where someone can be medically approved for disability (which starts the Medicare qualification timeline) but technically denied for SSDI payments due to insufficient covered employment. This is relatively uncommon but does happen, especially with people who worked in jobs not covered by Social Security. The key is distinguishing between medical approval and technical approval for payment purposes.
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Paolo Ricci
Same thing happened to my cousin! She got denied SSDI but still got Medicare after 2 yrs. Something about being "medically disabled" but not "technically qualified" for payments? She eventually got retirement benefits at 67 even tho she only had like 35 credits. Go figure!
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QuantumQuester
•That's encouraging to hear! Did she have to do anything special to get retirement benefits with only 35 credits? Or did they just automatically start when she reached retirement age?
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Amina Toure
After reading through this thread, I think I understand what might be happening in your case: 1. You likely received a medical determination of disability (which explains Medicare eligibility) but were denied SSDI payments due to insufficient recent covered employment. 2. If you received an official medical disability determination, you may have qualified for a disability freeze, which would protect your retirement benefit eligibility. 3. The confusion from the SSA representatives might be because they're looking at your record without considering the disability freeze provision, or they're confusing the technical denial of SSDI with a complete medical denial. 4. There's also the complication of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) that would reduce (but not eliminate) any Social Security benefits due to your public pension. I strongly recommend requesting a formal appointment with a Claims Specialist and specifically asking about your disability freeze status and how it affects your retirement eligibility. Also request a PEBES (Personal Earnings and Benefit Estimate Statement) that accounts for your disability freeze if applicable.
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QuantumQuester
•Thank you so much for this comprehensive explanation. This makes so much more sense now. I'll definitely request that formal appointment and ask specifically about the disability freeze. Should I bring any particular documentation to this appointment, like my Medicare approval letter or medical records from when I was initially determined to be disabled?
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Yara Nassar
Following up on my earlier comment - after using Claimyr to reach an actual knowledgeable person at SSA, I discovered my benefits were calculated wrong for YEARS because regular reps didn't understand how the disability freeze worked with my public employment. Got a nice backpay check! Definitely don't give up and keep pushing for answers.
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QuantumQuester
•That's amazing you got backpay! I'm definitely going to pursue this further. I've been so discouraged by the conflicting information, but this thread has given me hope. I'll try to update once I get more definitive answers.
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