Is SSDI calculated at age 62 or FRA (67)? Denied for back surgery, now approaching early retirement
I'm really confused about how SSDI benefits are calculated. Are they based on early retirement age (62) or full retirement age (67)? My situation is complicated - I applied for SSDI last year in July due to severe back problems, had surgery in September, but got denied anyway. I'm still dealing with significant back issues and have started the appeal process. The timing is tricky because I turn 62 in April and I'm not sure if I should just take early retirement instead of continuing the SSDI fight. Would taking early retirement hurt my SSDI case? And if I eventually get approved for SSDI, would my benefit amount be the same as what I'd get at full retirement age (67)? Any advice from people who've navigated this would be really helpful.
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Andre Laurent
SSDI benefits are calculated based on your full retirement age (67) benefit amount, not your reduced age 62 amount. If approved for SSDI, you'd receive your full PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) regardless of your age. This is one big advantage of SSDI over early retirement - no reduction penalty. Regarding your situation, filing for early retirement at 62 while your SSDI appeal is pending is complicated. You can do it, but there are important considerations: 1. If you take early retirement and later win your SSDI case, SSA would pay you the difference between your reduced retirement and the full SSDI amount for those months. 2. However, if your SSDI claim is ultimately denied, you're permanently stuck with the reduced early retirement amount (about 30% less than FRA). 3. Once you reach full retirement age, SSDI automatically converts to regular retirement benefits anyway.
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Carmen Diaz
•Thank you for explaining this clearly. So SSDI would give me my full retirement amount even though I'm only 62? That's a big difference financially. Do you know if taking early retirement while appealing would somehow hurt my SSDI case? I'm worried they'll say "well, you're already collecting SS benefits so you don't need SSDI."
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Emily Jackson
my neighbor went thru something similar with her back. she took early retirement while waiting for disability decision. said it was better than having NO income. when she got approved for disabilty later they just adjusted everything and she got backpay too
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Carmen Diaz
•That's good to know - did she end up with the full retirement amount eventually? I'm worried about being stuck with the reduced amount forever if the appeal doesn't work out.
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Liam Mendez
I was in a similar situation 2 years ago. Applied for SSDI for severe arthritis, got denied TWICE, then finally approved on the hearing level. The wait was AWFUL! If I could do it over again, I would have taken early retirement while waiting because I ended up with no income for 14 months and nearly lost my house!!! One thing nobody told me - SSDI is based on your FULL retirement amount but they also look at your "date of disability onset" which affects how much backpay you get. Make sure your medical records clearly show when your back problems became severe enough to prevent work. IMPORTANT: If you do take early retirement, you MUST keep appealing your SSDI case. Once you're approved for SSDI, they'll switch you from early retirement to SSDI (which equals your full retirement amount). The difference is HUGE over time!!!
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Sophia Nguyen
•This is completely correct. My friend who works at SSA told me that almost 70% of SSDI claims get denied initially but many get approved on appeal, especially with hearing officers. Definitely don't give up just because of an initial denial.
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Jacob Smithson
Have you looked into getting a disability attorney? They typically work on contingency (only get paid if you win) and the fee is capped by law at 25% of your backpay or $7,000, whichever is less. They can really help with the appeal process and increase your chances of winning. The key is having solid medical documentation of your inability to work - especially important since you had surgery but are still having problems afterwards.
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Carmen Diaz
•I've thought about getting an attorney. I'm just worried about the cost, but if they only get paid if I win, that seems reasonable. My doctor has been good about documenting everything, but I'm not sure if it's enough for SSA's strict standards.
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Isabella Brown
I successfully navigated this exact situation three years ago. Here's what I learned: 1. SSDI is calculated at your full retirement age amount (NOT reduced). This is a big financial difference - approximately 30% more monthly. 2. Taking early retirement while appealing SSDI is perfectly acceptable and won't hurt your disability case. The systems are designed to work together. 3. If you win SSDI later, they'll switch you to the higher amount retroactively and adjust any payments. 4. For back issues specifically, make sure all imaging (MRIs, X-rays) are included with your appeal along with functional limitations documented by your doctor. 5. The SSDI appeal process has several stages: reconsideration, hearing, appeals council. Most approvals happen at the hearing level when you can explain your situation to a judge.
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Maya Patel
•Would totally second the advice about making sure ALL medical evidence is submitted. My sister got denied at first for her back problems, then we found out they didn't even look at her most recent MRI that showed the herniated discs! Once she submitted that with the appeal, she got approved.
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Emily Jackson
anybody else spend hours trying to call SSA and just get disconnected?? its driving me crazy, i need to ask about this same thing for my husband but cant get thru to anyone!!
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Maya Patel
•Yes! I spent 3 days trying to reach someone at SSA last month. Ended up using Claimyr.com and got through in 20 minutes. They basically call SSA for you and get you connected to a live agent. Saved me hours of frustration. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - definitely worth it when you need answers quickly.
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Liam Mendez
Another thing to consider - if your back problems are serious enough that you can't work, but not quite enough for SSDI approval, look into medical vocational allowances. After age 60, SSA has more lenient rules about approving disability if you can't do your past work and have limited education/skills for desk jobs. With back problems, heavy lifting restrictions alone might qualify you under these rules!
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Carmen Diaz
•I hadn't heard about medical vocational allowances - that's interesting. I worked in construction for 30+ years and definitely can't do that anymore with my back. I barely finished high school and have no computer skills, so office work seems impossible too.
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Sophia Nguyen
I took early retirement at 62 when my disability claim was pending. Big mistake IMHO. When I finally got approved for SSDI 8 months later, they did switch me to the higher payment (about $600 more per month for me), but I'm worried about what happens at age 67. Somebody at my retirement group said that because I took early retirement first, my permanent benefit after 67 will still be reduced. Anyone know if that's true?
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Andre Laurent
•That's actually incorrect information. If you're approved for SSDI after taking early retirement, your benefit at full retirement age (67) will NOT be reduced. When SSDI converts to regular retirement at FRA, it converts at the full amount, not the reduced early retirement amount. The system is designed to ensure you're not penalized permanently.
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Jacob Smithson
A couple timing considerations for you: 1. There's a 5-month waiting period for SSDI benefits after your established onset date of disability. So backpay doesn't start immediately from when you became disabled. 2. If you take early retirement while appealing, and then win your SSDI case, they'll pay you the difference retroactively, but this can create some complicated tax situations. 3. The SSDI appeal process can take 1-2 years to reach the hearing level, so having some income during that time is important to consider.
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Carmen Diaz
•The 5-month waiting period is frustrating. My back problems started over a year ago but got much worse before my surgery. I'm already struggling financially so waiting potentially another year or more for the appeal is scary. The tax situation sounds complicated too - I hadn't thought about that aspect.
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