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Can my wife claim spousal benefits on my SSDI instead of her small retirement benefit at 62?

Got some great news yesterday - finally approved for SSDI after fighting for almost 8 months! Such a relief after all the paperwork and appeals. Now I'm trying to figure out what this means for my wife's situation. She's turning 62 next month and was planning to file for her own SS retirement benefits. The problem is she was self-employed running a small craft business for most of her career and her benefit amount is going to be really small - only about $850/month according to her statement. I'm wondering if she'd be better off taking spousal benefits based on my SSDI record instead? Would she be eligible to get half of my SSDI amount? My payment is going to be $2,375/month. Is there some kind of either/or rule, or can she just choose whichever one pays more? Also does it matter that I'm on disability and not retirement benefits? Really confused about how all this works together. Thanks for any help!

congrats on getting approved! i went thru that nightmare 2 years ago, total pain!!!! As for ur wife, she automatically gets whatever is higher between her own or half of yours, SSA does the calculation.

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Thanks for the congrats! So does that mean she doesn't even have to choose between them? The SSA just gives her whichever amount is higher automatically?

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Congratulations on your SSDI approval! Regarding your wife's benefits, there are several important factors to consider: 1. When your wife files at age 62, she'll be filing early (before her Full Retirement Age), which means any benefit she receives will be permanently reduced. 2. If she files for her own retirement benefit at 62, she'll automatically be deemed to be filing for spousal benefits as well. This is called "deemed filing." 3. The spousal benefit at Full Retirement Age would be 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount (the SSDI amount you're receiving). However, since she's filing at 62, the spousal portion will be reduced to approximately 32.5-35% of your benefit amount. 4. Social Security will pay her own reduced retirement benefit first, then add a supplement to bring the total up to the reduced spousal benefit amount IF the spousal amount is higher. Based on your numbers: If your SSDI is $2,375, a 50% spousal benefit would be $1,187.50 at her Full Retirement Age. Reduced for age 62, it would be approximately $771-$830 (depending on her exact birth year). Since her own benefit at 62 would be about $850, she might not receive any additional spousal benefit if her own reduced benefit exceeds the reduced spousal amount.

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Thank you for breaking this down! I didn't realize the 50% would also get reduced if she files early. So it sounds like in our case, her own benefit at $850 might actually be higher than the reduced spousal benefit? That's surprising - I assumed half of my benefit would always be better since my amount is so much higher than hers.

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I was in a similar situation with my husband. Its SO FRUSTRATING that they reduce the spousal benefit when you take it early!! I thought I'd get half of my husbands but ended up with way less because I filed at 62. One thing to consider - could your wife wait until her full retirement age to file? That way she'd get the full 50% of your SSDI without reduction. That would be around $1,187 instead of $850 if I'm understanding your numbers right. Just depends if you guys need the money now or can wait.

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That's something to think about. We were counting on her starting benefits next month for our budget, but maybe we need to recalculate and see if we could manage with just my SSDI for a few years. Would give her a much better monthly amount in the long run.

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sry to jump in but isnt there some special rule with SSDI vs regular SS retirement? my brother got SSDI and his wife got something different than normal spousal i think. also dont forget medicare comes with SSDI after 24 months which is a huge benefit

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You're thinking of the fact that spouses of SSDI recipients can receive spousal benefits before normal retirement age if they are either: 1) age 62 or older, or 2) caring for the disabled worker's child who is under 16 or disabled. These are the same rules that apply to retirement benefits, but since SSDI can begin before retirement age, some people find it confusing. And yes, Medicare eligibility after 24 months of SSDI entitlement is a significant benefit.

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Just want to add my experience - my situation was almost identical! I'm on SSDI and my wife claimed at 62. She was told by the agent that she would get half my benefit but when payments started it was MUCH lower because of the early claiming reduction. We were so upset because we budgeted based on wrong information. Be very clear when talking to SSA that you understand the reduction factors.

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That's exactly what I was worried about - budgeting based on wrong information. Thanks for sharing your experience. Seems like we really need to get exact numbers from SSA before making our decision.

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I'll check this out - I was dreading the phone wait times. We definitely need to speak with someone who can run the actual numbers for our specific situation. Thanks for the tip!

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The rules for spouse's benefits are unnecessarily complicated! Here's my understanding based on research and my own experience with my husband's SSDI: 1. The spousal benefit is calculated as the DIFFERENCE between your spouse's own benefit and up to 50% of yours (if filing at FRA) 2. If your wife's PIA (full retirement age amount) is $1,200 but she's getting $850 at 62, they'll compare her $1,200 to 50% of your $2,375 ($1,187.50) 3. Since these amounts are so close, she might not get ANY spousal supplement at all 4. BUT... everything gets reduced for early filing, and the reduction factors are different for retirement vs spousal Possible scenarios: a) If her reduced own benefit > reduced spousal: she just gets her own benefit b) If reduced spousal > reduced own benefit: she gets her own benefit PLUS the difference to reach the spousal amount This is definitely worth scheduling an appointment with SSA to get the exact calculation. They can tell you exactly what she'd receive in all scenarios.

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Thank you for breaking it down like this. I didn't realize they would compare her PIA (unreduced benefit) to 50% of mine first, then apply reductions. That makes the calculation even more complicated! Definitely going to need to speak with SSA directly.

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my buddy's wife faced this exact situation last year and she ended up just taking her own benefit at 62 and then switching to the spousal benefit at her full retirement age when it wouldn't be reduced anymore. can ur wife do that?

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Unfortunately, that strategy is no longer available for anyone born after January 1, 1954. The deemed filing rules were changed by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. Now when someone files for either their own retirement or for spousal benefits, they are deemed to be filing for both simultaneously, and will receive the higher of the two amounts (with appropriate reductions for early filing). The only exceptions to this rule are for surviving spouses (widow/widower benefits) who can still choose when to take each benefit.

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