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Anastasia Sokolov

Can I get higher Social Security benefits by marrying at 84? Questions about spousal and survivor benefits after taking early retirement

I'm 84 years old and I'm wondering about marrying at this stage in my life and how it might affect my Social Security benefits. I have two longtime friends who I've known for years, and we've recently been discussing marriage as a practical arrangement. My main question is: if I did get married, how long would I need to be married before I could qualify for Social Security benefits based on their earnings record? And what about survivor benefits if they pass away before me? I was forced to claim my own Social Security early at 62 (back in 2003) due to financial circumstances, so I only receive about $1,000 per month now. Would getting married potentially increase my monthly amount? Both friends have significantly higher benefit amounts than mine from what they've told me. This isn't some predatory scheme - we're all in our 80s and have known each other for decades. We're just trying to make practical decisions at this point in our lives. Any insights about the marriage duration requirements for spousal and survivor benefits would be greatly appreciated.

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To qualify for spousal benefits, you need to be married for at least 1 year before applying. For survivor benefits, you need to be married for at least 9 months before your spouse passes away (with some exceptions). Since you already claimed your own benefits at 62, you would only receive the difference between your current benefit and up to 50% of your new spouse's full retirement age benefit (for spousal) or up to 100% of what they were receiving (for survivor benefits). One important thing to know - switching to spousal benefits after already claiming your own reduced benefits doesn't reset anything. Your reduction for claiming early is permanent, and it will affect how spousal benefits are calculated too.

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Thank you! That's helpful information. So if my potential spouse's benefit is $2000, and mine is $1000, would I potentially get an extra $500 as a spouse (half of their $2000 minus my $1000)? And if they passed away, would I then get their full $2000 instead of my $1000? Just trying to understand the math here.

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One thing I'm confused about - if you've already been taking benefits since 62, wouldn't that be for like 22 years now? So you started claiming around 2003? The benefit amounts would have been different back then. Have you been getting COLAs (cost of living adjustments) every year? $1000 seems really low for someone who's been on benefits that long, unless you had very low lifetime earnings.

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Yes, I started in 2003. My career was mostly part-time work with some years where I didn't work at all while raising children. The $1000 is after all the COLAs over the years. I know it's not much to live on, which is why I'm wondering if marriage might help my financial situation.

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Zara Ahmed

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The previous information is correct, but let me clarify a few points: 1. For spousal benefits: Marriage requirement is at least 12 months 2. For survivor benefits: Marriage requirement is at least 9 months (with some exceptions for accidental death) Since you're already receiving your own benefits that were reduced for early claiming, any spousal benefits would be reduced accordingly. The calculation gets complicated, but essentially: You would receive your own reduced benefit PLUS the difference between that amount and what your spousal benefit would be (which is up to 50% of your spouse's PIA, also reduced if you claimed early). For survivor benefits, you could receive up to 100% of what your spouse was receiving, but again, there may be reductions based on when you claimed your own benefits. Consult directly with SSA before making any decisions, as your specific circumstances may affect the calculations.

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Luca Esposito

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My aunt did something similar! She married her longtime friend when they were both 79. It worked out great for her financially when he passed - she got his full $2400 benefit instead of her $840. The SSA made her provide the marriage certificate but it was pretty straightforward after that.

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Nia Thompson

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Jst want to say careful with marriage at ANY age!!! My sister married at 70 thinking same thing bout SS benefits and ended up with nursing home bills from her husband that wiped out EVERYTHING she had. Medicaid lookback is 5 YEARS!!!! Think about ALL consequnces not just SS!!!

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That's a good point I hadn't considered. I'll definitely look into how marriage might affect other aspects like Medicaid eligibility and potential medical bills. Thank you for the warning.

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Luca Esposito

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im not sure anybodys mentioned this yet but if you were married before for at least 10 years you might be able to claim on that ex-spouse instead? might be easier than getting married again at 84! no judgment tho, you do you!

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I was married for 8 years in my 30s, so unfortunately that doesn't qualify for the 10-year requirement for ex-spouse benefits. But good thinking!

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StarSeeker

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Another important consideration: If either of your potential spouses is receiving any needs-based benefits like SSI or Medicaid, marriage could affect those benefits since household income is considered. Also, be aware that marriage might impact other financial arrangements like pensions with survivor benefits that may already name other beneficiaries. At 84, I would strongly recommend making an appointment with SSA to discuss your specific situation rather than making decisions based solely on general forum advice. Your earnings record, exact benefit amount, and other factors will determine the exact financial impact.

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You're absolutely right. I'll schedule an appointment with SSA to get advice specific to my situation. There are clearly more factors to consider than I initially realized. Thank you all for your helpful input!

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MY NEIGHBOR JUST DID THIS!!!! She married her friend and got his benefits when he died but she had to fight with SSA for MONTHS because they said it was a "marriage of convenience" or something like that. They investigated her!!! Be careful what you say to them about why you're getting married!!

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Zara Ahmed

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This is important to clarify. SSA doesn't technically have a "marriage of convenience" policy that would disqualify someone from benefits. If the marriage is legal, it generally counts for Social Security purposes regardless of the reasons for marrying. The 9-month duration requirement for survivor benefits is primarily what they'll check. However, if fraud is suspected (marriage solely for benefits with no intent to live as spouses), that could potentially be investigated, though it's relatively rare in cases like this.

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