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Louisa Ramirez

PA UC eligibility questions - job length requirements, termination for attendance points, and refiling timeframes

Hey everyone, I'm trying to understand some PA unemployment basics before I make any decisions. Got a few questions I'm hoping someone here can help with: 1. What's the minimum time I need to be employed at a job before I can qualify for PA unemployment? Is there a specific number of months? 2. My current situation: I'm on thin ice with attendance points at my warehouse job (called out sick too many times). Company policy says you need to be there a full year before getting a "final warning" status, but I've only been there about 7 months. If they fire me for attendance points before I hit that one-year mark, would I still qualify for benefits? 3. If I previously collected unemployment, how long do I need to wait before I can file a brand new claim? Does the "benefit year" rule still apply in 2025? Really appreciate any advice. Trying to understand my options before things potentially get worse at work.

For your first question, PA doesn't have a minimum job length requirement specifically, but you need to have earned enough wages during your "base period" (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before filing). For 2025, you need to have earned at least $116 per week for at least 18 weeks in your base period. For your second question, being fired for attendance issues will likely be considered misconduct, which would disqualify you from benefits. The one-year policy at your job doesn't matter to UC - what matters is if your absences were for good cause or if you violated reasonable employer policies. For your third question, you generally need to wait until your benefit year ends (12 months from when you first filed) AND have enough new earnings to qualify for a new claim. You can't just file a new claim whenever you want.

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Thanks for the detailed answer! So even though I haven't been at the job for a full year, I could technically qualify based on my earnings during the base period? And just to clarify - if my absences were for legitimate health issues (I have some documentation from urgent care visits), would that still count as misconduct?

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I got fired for EXACTLY the same thing last october!!! points system for being late and calling off. i fought it and WON my UC claim bc i had doctors notes for most of my absenses. they tried to say i commited misconduct but my hearing officer said if u have medical reasons and can prove it, its NOT misconduct!!!! make sure u keep ALL ur medical papers and texts where u told ur boss u were sick!!!

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How long did your appeal process take? I'm in a similar situation and it's been 3 weeks with no update on my appeal. Did you have to go to a hearing?

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took FOREVER... like 2 months before i got the hearing date and another 3 weeks to get the decision. i did have a phone hearing and had to talk to the ref and my old boss was there too arguing against me. suuuuper stressful but worth it when i finally won!

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To add to what others have said about your questions: 1. Pennsylvania looks at your base period earnings, not job length. Your base period is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before filing. You must have earned at least $116 per week for 18+ weeks AND have at least 37% of your total base period wages outside your highest quarter. The financial determination can be complex. 2. For misconduct terminations (like attendance points), it depends on the circumstances of your absences. If they were truly beyond your control and you properly reported them according to company policy, you might qualify. But if they were unexcused or you didn't follow call-out procedures, you'll likely be disqualified. 3. For refiling, you need to wait until your benefit year is over AND have enough new earnings since your last claim started (typically 6x your weekly benefit rate). This prevents people from repeatedly collecting benefits without working in between. If you're anticipating filing soon, save all documentation related to your employment and any absences. PA UC will investigate with your employer before making a determination.

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This is really helpful information, especially about the base period earnings. I didn't know about that 37% rule. Most of my absences were documented with doctor's notes since I've had some health issues, but I did have a couple of no-call/no-shows when I was in the ER and forgot to call in time. Hoping those don't count against me too badly.

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my brother got fired for points last year and didnt get unemployment. they said it was his fault for missing work. but my cousin got fired for something similar and she did get benefits. i think it depends on who reviews your case tbh

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When my employer fired me for attendance, I fought with PA unemployment for WEEKS trying to get through on their phone line. Eventually I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) and they got me connected to an actual PA UC rep in about 15 minutes. The rep explained exactly what documentation I needed to prove my absences weren't misconduct. Totally worth it instead of dealing with busy signals for days. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 My advice is don't wait until you're fired to start gathering evidence. Get copies of all doctor's notes, text messages to supervisors about being sick, and any emails about your absences. PA UC puts the burden on YOU to prove you weren't fired for willful misconduct.

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does that service actually work? i've been trying to reach someone at UC for like 2 weeks about an issue with my PIN and keep hitting dead ends!

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Yeah it worked for me in February. I was skeptical too but after spending 3 days trying to get through myself with no luck, I was desperate. Got connected to someone who actually knew what they were talking about in like 15 min.

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wait so if u already got uc before u gotta wait a whole year to apply again????? thats crazy

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Not exactly. You have to wait until your benefit year ends AND have enough new qualifying wages. The benefit year is 12 months from when you first filed your claim. This prevents people from just collecting benefits indefinitely without working in between claims.

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I went through this exact situation in January. PA UC is VERY strict about attendance-related terminations. Even with doctor's notes, they initially denied my claim, saying I should have applied for FMLA protection. I had to appeal and go through a hearing where I explained that I wasn't eligible for FMLA yet (hadn't been there a year). Eventually won but it took almost 3 months to get any payments. One tip: If they fire you, make sure you get a clear written statement about WHY they're firing you. If it's vague like "failure to meet expectations" instead of specifically about attendance, it can help your case.

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That's a great tip about getting the reason in writing. I'll definitely do that if it comes to termination. And yeah, I'm not eligible for FMLA protection yet either. Sounds like I should be prepared for a long process if this goes south.

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One more important thing about your situation: If you're anticipating being fired soon and want to file for UC, wait until AFTER you're actually separated from employment. Filing while still employed can cause complications and delays. Also, when you do file, answer all questions about the separation 100% truthfully. If your employer reports a different reason than what you stated, it automatically creates an issue that requires investigation and will delay your payments.

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good luck man the whole system is rigged against workers i swear

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Just to address your original questions again with some specific numbers: 1. For 2025, the minimum qualifying wages in your base period is about $2,088 (18 weeks × $116) 2. For misconduct cases, the burden of proof is on the employer, but attendance is something they can usually document easily 3. For refiling, you typically need to earn approximately 6× your previous weekly benefit rate in new wages to qualify for a new claim after your benefit year ends Hope this helps clarify things!

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Thanks again for breaking down the numbers - that makes it much clearer. I've definitely earned more than that minimum amount in my base period, so at least that part shouldn't be an issue.

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I was in a similar situation last year and want to share what I learned. The key thing about attendance-related terminations is that PA UC will look at whether your absences were "willful" or beyond your control. Having medical documentation is crucial, but make sure it's from actual healthcare providers (urgent care, doctors, hospitals) - not just employer sick notes or self-certifications. Also, keep track of how you reported each absence to your employer. If you followed their call-out procedures correctly, that helps your case. If you had no-call/no-shows, be prepared to explain the circumstances (like being in the ER and unable to call). One thing that helped me was creating a timeline of all my absences with dates, reasons, and what documentation I had for each. When they investigate, they'll want specific details about every absence that contributed to your termination. The process can be stressful, but don't give up if you get initially denied. A lot of attendance-related denials get overturned on appeal if you have good documentation and valid reasons for your absences.

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This is really solid advice, especially about creating a timeline of absences. I've been keeping most of my urgent care paperwork but didn't think about documenting the timeline with how I reported each absence. I did follow the call-out procedure most times (texting my supervisor before my shift), but like I mentioned earlier, I had a couple instances where I was in the ER and couldn't call until after my shift had already started. Hopefully being able to show ER records for those times will help explain why I couldn't call in advance. Thanks for sharing your experience - it gives me some hope that even if I get denied initially, there might still be a chance on appeal.

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Just wanted to add something about the documentation piece that might help - when I went through my UC hearing, the referee specifically asked about whether I had informed my employer about any ongoing health conditions that might affect my attendance. Even if you don't have FMLA protection yet, letting your supervisor or HR know in writing that you're dealing with health issues can strengthen your case that the absences weren't just "willful misconduct." Also, if your warehouse has an employee handbook or attendance policy, make sure you get a copy before you're terminated. Sometimes employers don't follow their own progressive discipline policies, and that can work in your favor during an appeal. In my case, my employer skipped steps in their own disciplinary process, which the hearing officer noted in my favor. The waiting period sucks, but document everything now while it's fresh in your memory. Good luck!

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That's a really good point about notifying the employer in writing about health conditions. I haven't done that yet, but I still have time since I'm still employed. Do you think an email to HR would be sufficient, or should I submit something more formal? Also, thanks for the tip about getting a copy of the employee handbook - I never thought about checking if they're following their own disciplinary procedures. That could definitely be useful if this goes to a hearing.

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An email to HR should be sufficient as long as you keep a copy for your records - the key is having it in writing with a timestamp. You could say something like "I wanted to inform you that I've been dealing with some ongoing health issues that may occasionally affect my attendance. I will continue to follow proper call-out procedures and provide documentation when needed." Keep it brief but make sure there's a paper trail showing you were proactive about communicating the situation. And definitely get that employee handbook - a lot of companies mess up their own progressive discipline steps, especially with attendance policies.

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share something that might help with your situation. I work in HR at a manufacturing facility and deal with attendance policies regularly. One thing that often gets overlooked is the difference between "excused" and "unexcused" absences in the eyes of PA UC. Even if your company's point system treats all absences the same way, UC looks at the underlying reasons. Medical absences with proper documentation are typically viewed more favorably than just calling off without a valid reason. Also, regarding the timing question - the fact that your company has a one-year policy before final warnings doesn't mean much to UC. What matters is whether your employer can prove you violated a reasonable attendance policy through willful misconduct. If most of your absences were health-related and you have documentation, that weakens their misconduct case significantly. My advice would be to start organizing your documentation now: medical records, text messages to supervisors, any emails about your absences, and dates/times you called out. Even if you don't end up getting terminated, having everything organized will save you stress later if you need to file a claim.

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