Has anyone successfully won a PA UC appeal against a referee's decision?
I just got my referee decision in the mail yesterday and I'm completely shocked. They denied my PA UC benefits saying I didn't have 'good cause' for leaving my job, but my employer literally cut my hours from 40 to 15 per week! I couldn't pay my bills on that! The referee claimed this wasn't a 'substantial' change in working conditions. I have 15 days to file an appeal to the UC Board of Review but I'm wondering if it's even worth it? Has anyone here actually succeeded in overturning a referee's decision on appeal? What kind of evidence helped your case? I'm so stressed about this - I've got about $8,400 riding on this decision and don't know what to do next.
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Luca Bianchi
Yes, I won my appeal against a referee's decision last year! Don't give up. The Board of Review actually overturns quite a few referee decisions. In my case, I had documentation showing the referee misinterpreted PA UC law regarding suitable work. Make sure you clearly state the legal reasons why the referee's decision was wrong - not just that you disagree. Focus on any facts they got wrong or laws they misapplied. For reduced hours, you need to show it was a substantial change - typically more than 30% reduction is considered substantial. Submit your previous pay stubs showing 40 hours compared to the new 15 hour schedule. Also include any documentation about bill payments you couldn't make. Be super specific in your appeal!
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Zara Shah
•Thank you so much for this! Did you write the appeal yourself or get legal help? Also, how long did the Board of Review take to make a decision after you submitted your appeal? I'm getting so anxious about bills piling up while I wait.
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Charisma Laland
•@Luca Bianchi how did it go for you with appealing the referee decision? I had my appeal today with the referee and he denied benefits as well I’m so pissed is it worth appealing to the board he stated I voluntarily left my employer but I left cause I was about to get fired due to my attendance I was only late but I had fmla my supervisor was the worst
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Charisma Laland
•@Luca Bianchi ok thank u definitely gonna give it a try good luck to you as well
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GalacticGuardian
i lost mine but my frend won his so it can go ether way. the thing is u gotta have PROOF. like actual paperwork not just ur word. if u have emails or sumthing from ur boss about the hours changing thats good. also tell them exactly what bills u cant pay with the lower hours. they like numbers and stuff
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Zara Shah
•I have the original job offer letter showing 40 hours and then text messages from my manager about the reduced schedule. I also kept all my bills showing what I need to pay each month compared to what I'd make with reduced hours. Hope that's enough!
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Nia Harris
I won my appeal to the Board after losing with the referee. It took about 8 weeks for them to decide, and they completely reversed the referee's determination. The key things that helped me win: 1. I clearly identified the specific error in the referee's decision (they misapplied the law about voluntary quit) 2. I cited the specific PA UC regulations that supported my position 3. I submitted NEW evidence that I didn't have at the referee hearing 4. I was very organized and factual in my appeal letter Your case sounds winnable. A reduction from 40 to 15 hours is a 62.5% reduction which absolutely meets the standard for substantial change in working conditions. Make sure to emphasize that percentage in your appeal. Also, if you haven't already, check out the PA UC appeal template on the legal aid website - it's extremely helpful. Good luck!
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Mateo Gonzalez
•This is so helpful!! I'm in a similar situation but my hours were cut from 35 to 22. That's only about 37% reduction. Would that be considered substantial enough?
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Charisma Laland
•@Nia Harris can u tell me how did that work ? I just appealed a referee decision how long will it typically take for a board decision I felt like I had to resign because I was getting terminated due to my attendance but I was protected under fmla
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Aisha Ali
DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP!! The system is RIGGED against workers!!! I had SOLID proof my employer lied at my hearing and the referee still sided with them. Then I appealed to the Board and WAITED THREE MONTHS just to get DENIED AGAIN!!! They protect employers because they pay into the system. Your best bet is to find another job ASAP and forget about UC entirely. Sorry to be negative but they just waste your time with these appeals!!!
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Nia Harris
•While I understand your frustration, this isn't accurate advice. The UC system isn't rigged - it just strictly follows specific legal criteria. Each case is different. For a hours reduction case like OP's (62.5% cut), there's strong legal precedent supporting eligibility. The Board of Review overturns about 30% of referee decisions that are appealed, so it's definitely worth pursuing.
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Ethan Moore
I was trying to reach someone at PA UC about my appeal for WEEKS with no luck - busy signals, disconnects, and no callback. Then I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual PA UC rep in under an hour! They have a demo video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 The rep was able to give me specific advice on what to include in my appeal and even told me what parts of the UC law to reference. Totally worth it for me since I was getting nowhere trying to call myself. If you're filing that appeal, it might help to talk to someone directly first.
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GalacticGuardian
•does that actually work? i tried calling uc like 30 times today and kept getting busy signal
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Ethan Moore
•Yes, it worked for me! I was skeptical too, but I was desperate after trying for days. They got me connected to a UC rep who actually knew about appeals and could answer my specific questions. Way better than just guessing what to write in my appeal.
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Yuki Nakamura
My cousin just went through this whole appeal thing. She said the most important part was showing up to all the hearings and having her documentation organized. Also she said to make sure you request a transcript of the referee hearing to include with your Board appeal so they can see exactly what was said. Good luck!
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Zara Shah
Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm definitely going to file the appeal. I'll make sure to emphasize that my hours were cut by 62.5% and include all my documentation showing the change. I'll also try to talk to a UC rep directly to get more guidance before submitting. Really appreciate all the help - I was feeling pretty hopeless yesterday.
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Luca Bianchi
•Great plan! One more tip: If you do win your appeal, be prepared for a bit of a wait before you get your back payments. It can take 2-3 weeks after a favorable decision for the money to hit your account. Also, make sure to keep filing your weekly claims during the entire appeal process, even though they'll show as 'disqualified' until (hopefully) your appeal is granted.
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Mateo Gonzalez
I'm confused about something - I thought you couldn't get unemployment if your hours were just reduced? Don't you have to be completely laid off? Or is PA different from other states?
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Nia Harris
•In Pennsylvania (and most states), you can qualify for partial UC benefits if your hours are substantially reduced. The key factors are: 1. The reduction must be substantial (typically 30%+ of your hours) 2. The reduction must be permanent or indefinite (not just temporary) 3. You didn't cause the reduction If your weekly earnings drop below your weekly benefit rate, you can receive the difference as partial benefits. OP's case (40 hours cut to 15) would typically qualify as a substantial reduction under PA UC regulations.
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Luca Bianchi
One more important thing - if you haven't already, request a copy of the "Record of Testimony" from your referee hearing ASAP. You'll need to review it to identify any factual errors or misstatements in your appeal. You can request it by calling the UC Service Center or the referee's office directly. If the referee misunderstood any facts or your employer said something inaccurate, this is your chance to point it out to the Board of Review.
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Zara Shah
•Thank you! I'll call tomorrow to request that transcript. The referee definitely got some facts wrong about my specific situation - like saying I "agreed" to the reduced hours when I actually told my manager I couldn't survive on them but had no choice in the short term.
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Ingrid Larsson
I'm going through something similar right now - my hours got cut from 32 to 18 per week and I'm waiting on my referee decision. Reading through all these responses gives me hope that there might be options even if the referee denies me initially. The advice about calculating the exact percentage reduction and having documentation ready is really helpful. @Zara Shah - definitely sounds like you have a strong case with that 62.5% reduction! That's way more than the typical 30% threshold everyone's mentioning. I'm keeping track of this thread to see how your appeal goes. Good luck with everything!
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Julian Paolo
•@Ingrid Larsson Your situation with the cut from 32 to 18 hours about (44% reduction definitely) sounds like it should qualify as substantial too! That s'well above the 30% threshold. I m'keeping my fingers crossed for both of us. It s'really encouraging to see so many people here who ve'successfully won their appeals - makes me feel like there s'actually hope in this system. Make sure you document everything like everyone s'suggesting, especially any communications with your employer about the hour changes. We ve'got this!
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Dylan Campbell
I went through this exact same process about 6 months ago and successfully won my Board of Review appeal! The referee initially denied my claim when my employer cut my hours from 38 to 20 per week, but the Board completely overturned that decision. Here's what made the difference in my case: 1. I calculated and clearly stated the percentage reduction (47% in my case, 62.5% in yours) 2. I included bank statements showing my monthly expenses vs. what I'd earn at reduced hours 3. I found the specific PA UC regulation (Section 402(b)) that defines "substantial change in working conditions" 4. Most importantly - I got a letter from my employer confirming the hour reduction was permanent, not temporary The whole Board review process took about 10 weeks, but they ruled in my favor and I got all my back benefits. Your case sounds even stronger than mine was since your reduction is higher. Don't let that one referee decision discourage you - the Board of Review looks at these cases with fresh eyes and often catches errors the referees made. You've definitely got a solid case here, especially with all that documentation you mentioned having!
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Elijah Brown
•@Dylan Campbell This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. The fact that you won with a 47% reduction gives me a lot more confidence about my 62.5% case. I m'definitely going to reference Section 402 b(in) my appeal like you mentioned. Quick question - did you write your appeal letter yourself or did you get help from legal aid? Also, when you say you got a letter from your employer confirming the reduction was permanent, how did you approach them about that? I m'worried my employer might not be cooperative since they re'probably hoping I don t'appeal. Really appreciate you taking the time to share all these specific details!
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Ruby Blake
•This is incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with the exact same situation and your success story gives me so much hope. Can you share more details about how you structured your appeal letter? Did you organize it by addressing each point the referee got wrong, or did you focus more on the legal arguments? Also, I'm curious about the timeline - you mentioned 10 weeks total, but how long after you submitted your appeal did you hear back from the Board? I'm trying to plan my finances around the potential wait time. Your case really shows that these appeals can work when you have solid documentation and know the right regulations to cite!
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Liam O'Reilly
I successfully appealed a referee decision to the PA Board of Review about 2 years ago and won! The key thing that helped me was being very specific about WHY the referee was wrong, not just that I disagreed with them. In your case, focus heavily on the legal definition of "substantial change in working conditions" - a 62.5% reduction is WAY above the threshold. Here's what I'd recommend for your appeal: - Lead with the math: 40 hours to 15 hours = 62.5% reduction - Reference PA UC Section 402(b) about substantial changes - Include your original job offer/agreement showing 40 hours - Show your monthly budget vs what you'd earn at 15 hours - Be clear that this wasn't your choice and you couldn't survive financially The Board took about 12 weeks to decide in my case, but they completely reversed the referee and I got all my back pay. Your case honestly sounds stronger than mine was. Don't give up - the referee clearly misapplied the law here and the Board will likely see that. The 15-day deadline is tight though, so get that appeal filed ASAP! You've got this!
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PixelWarrior
•@Liam O'Reilly Thank you for breaking this down so clearly! The step-by-step approach you outlined is exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to structure my appeal letter using your framework - starting with the math (that 62.5% really is substantial!), then citing Section 402(b), and including all my documentation. It's reassuring to know that even with a 12-week wait, you got all your back pay in the end. I'm definitely filing my appeal this week before the 15-day deadline. Your success story along with everyone else's experiences here has given me the confidence to fight this referee decision. Really appreciate you sharing such specific guidance!
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Dylan Fisher
I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! My hours were cut from 40 to 12 per week (70% reduction) and the referee denied my claim last month. Reading all these success stories gives me hope that the Board of Review appeal might actually work. What really stands out to me is how many people here emphasize having the RIGHT documentation and citing the specific PA UC regulations. It sounds like the referees sometimes don't apply the law correctly, but the Board catches these errors. @Zara Shah - your 62.5% reduction case sounds very strong based on what everyone's saying about the 30% threshold. I'm definitely going to follow the advice here about calculating percentages, referencing Section 402(b), and organizing all my financial documentation. Has anyone here had experience with how long it typically takes to get the actual back payments once the Board rules in your favor? I'm trying to figure out how long I need to stretch my savings while waiting for this process to play out.
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James Johnson
•@Dylan Fisher Your 70% reduction is even stronger than mine! That s'definitely well above any threshold for substantial change. From what I ve'seen in this thread, it sounds like once the Board rules in your favor, the back payments typically take 2-3 weeks to hit your account that (s'what @Luca Bianchi mentioned earlier . @Dylan)Campbell said his whole process was 10 weeks, and @Liam O Reilly waited'12 weeks for the Board decision itself. So you re probably'looking at roughly 12-15 weeks total from appeal filing to actually getting paid, assuming you win. I know it s a'long wait, but with a 70% hour reduction, you ve got'an incredibly strong case. Make sure to keep filing those weekly claims even though they show as disqualified - you ll need'that for your back pay calculation when you win!
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Owen Jenkins
I just wanted to add something that helped me when I won my Board of Review appeal last year - make sure you clearly explain HOW the hour reduction affected you financially, not just that it did. I created a simple budget breakdown showing my monthly expenses ($2,800) versus what I'd make at reduced hours ($1,200/month), which made it crystal clear why I couldn't continue working under those conditions. The Board really responded to seeing the actual dollar amounts rather than just percentages. Also, if you have any medical bills, childcare costs, or other fixed expenses that make the reduced income unworkable, definitely include those details. Your 62.5% reduction is absolutely substantial - I won mine with just a 38% cut - so you have a really strong foundation. The key is showing them you had no reasonable choice but to leave when faced with that dramatic income loss. Good luck with your appeal!
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