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Grace Johnson

How is unemployment fraud detected by NYS Department of Labor - worried about false accusations

I'm really stressed out because I keep hearing about people getting accused of unemployment fraud even when they did everything right. I've been collecting UI benefits for 6 weeks now and I'm paranoid that somehow the NYS Department of Labor might think I'm committing fraud. What triggers their fraud detection systems? I've been honest about everything - reporting all my part-time work, doing my job searches, filing my weekly claims on time. But I'm terrified I might have made a mistake somewhere that could look suspicious. Does anyone know what red flags they look for?

Jayden Reed

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The NYS Department of Labor uses several automated systems to detect potential fraud. Common triggers include: reporting work income inconsistently, claiming benefits while actually employed full-time, using false identity information, or filing from multiple states simultaneously. They also cross-reference your earnings with employer wage reports and tax records. As long as you're being honest about your work status and income, you should be fine.

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Grace Johnson

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That's reassuring, thank you. I've been super careful about reporting my part-time hours exactly as they appear on my paystubs.

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Nora Brooks

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ugh i got flagged for fraud last year even tho i did nothing wrong!! turned out my old employer reported my termination date wrong and it looked like i was working when i wasnt. took 3 months to clear up

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Grace Johnson

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Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare! How did you eventually get it resolved?

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Nora Brooks

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had to appeal and provide like 20 different documents proving when i actually stopped working. was a huge mess

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Eli Wang

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One thing that often gets people in trouble is not understanding the work search requirements properly. If you're claiming you did job searches but can't provide documentation when audited, that can trigger a fraud investigation. Make sure you're keeping detailed records of every application, contact, and interview. The NYS Department of Labor can request this information at any time.

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Wait, they can audit your job search records? I thought as long as you certified that you did them, that was enough.

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Eli Wang

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No, they absolutely can and do audit job search activities. You need to maintain records showing where you applied, when, and what type of work you were seeking. This is especially important if you're in a specialized field or have restrictions on the type of work you can accept.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS SET UP TO ASSUME YOU'RE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT! I know so many people who got hit with fraud charges just because their employer was slow to respond to wage verification requests. Meanwhile actual fraudsters probably get away with it because they know how to game the system better than honest people.

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I hear you on the frustration, but the fraud detection is there for a reason. During the pandemic, unemployment fraud cost taxpayers billions nationwide. The systems aren't perfect, but they've gotten better at distinguishing between genuine mistakes and intentional fraud.

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If you're having trouble reaching the NYS Department of Labor to clarify anything about fraud concerns or your claim status, I had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. It was really helpful when I needed to verify some confusing information on my claim before it became a bigger issue.

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Grace Johnson

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Thanks for the suggestion! Getting through to someone at NYS Department of Labor has been impossible when I tried calling directly.

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Nora Brooks

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never heard of this but might try it if my next weekly claim gets flagged for anything

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Ethan Scott

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I think the key is just being completely transparent. When I filed my initial claim, I included extra documentation even when it wasn't required, just to show I was being thorough. Better to over-document than under-document when it comes to unemployment benefits.

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GalacticGuru

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Another thing to watch out for is making sure your bank account information stays current with NYS DOL. I've heard of cases where people got flagged because their direct deposit info was outdated or they had multiple accounts linked, which can look suspicious to their automated systems. Also, if you move during your claim period, update your address immediately - filing from a different location than what's on record can trigger fraud alerts. The system is pretty sensitive to any inconsistencies in your personal information.

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This is really helpful advice! I didn't realize that having outdated bank info or address changes could trigger fraud alerts. I'm planning to move next month, so I'll make sure to update my address with NYS DOL right away. Do you know if there's a specific way to update address information, or do I just call them? I want to avoid any red flags during the transition.

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Alice Fleming

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You can update your address through the NY.gov online portal in your unemployment account profile, or by calling the unemployment phone line. The online method is usually faster and creates an immediate record of the change. Just make sure to do it before you actually move - I've heard that updating it after filing claims from the new address can sometimes cause delays while they verify the change wasn't fraudulent.

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Dylan Fisher

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One more thing to add - make sure you're consistent with how you report your availability to work. If you mark that you're available Monday-Friday but then later mention in a phone interview that you can only work certain days due to childcare, that inconsistency can flag their system. Also, be careful about social media posts during your claim period. I know it sounds paranoid, but some states do monitor social media for signs that claimants might be working unreported jobs or not actually looking for work. Just something to keep in mind while you're collecting benefits.

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Noah Ali

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Wow, I never thought about social media being monitored - that's actually pretty scary! I don't post about work stuff anyway, but it's good to know they might be looking. The availability consistency point is really important too. I've been marking that I'm available full-time Monday-Friday, but I should probably double-check that I haven't said anything contradictory in any of my weekly certifications. Thanks for the heads up about these potential pitfalls!

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Jabari-Jo

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As someone who went through a fraud investigation scare last year, I can tell you that documentation is absolutely everything. Keep screenshots of every job application you submit, save confirmation emails, and maintain a spreadsheet with dates, company names, and job titles. I also recommend taking screenshots of your weekly certification submissions right after you complete them - this saved me when there was a discrepancy about when I filed one week. The investigation process is stressful, but if you're being honest and can prove it with documentation, you'll be fine. Just remember that their systems are designed to catch patterns that look suspicious, not to punish honest people for minor mistakes.

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