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Andre Rousseau

Can you get unemployment if you abandon your job - NYS Department of Labor rules?

So I've been working at this retail job for about 8 months and honestly I just can't take it anymore. The manager is terrible, they keep cutting my hours randomly, and the work environment is toxic. I'm thinking about just not showing up anymore and finding something else. But I'm wondering - can you get unemployment if you abandon your job? Like if I just stop going without giving notice? I know NYS Department of Labor has rules about quitting but I'm not sure what happens if you just don't show up. Has anyone been in this situation before? I really need the income while I look for something better but I can't handle staying there much longer.

Zoe Stavros

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Job abandonment is generally considered voluntary separation by NYS Department of Labor, which means you typically won't qualify for unemployment benefits. When you don't show up for work without notice, your employer can document it as job abandonment and report it to NYS Department of Labor as you quitting. However, there might be exceptions if you can prove you had good cause for leaving - like unsafe working conditions or harassment. You'd need to file your claim and explain your circumstances during the adjudication process. It's always better to try to quit with proper notice or get terminated instead if possible.

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So even if the job was horrible I still can't get benefits? That seems really unfair. What counts as 'good cause' exactly?

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Jamal Harris

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I had a friend who just stopped showing up to her job at a restaurant because the manager was sexually harassing her. She filed for unemployment anyway and actually got approved after going through adjudication. She had to provide documentation and testimony about the harassment though. So it's not automatically disqualifying, but you need to have a really good reason and be able to prove it.

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GalaxyGlider

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That's different though - sexual harassment is definitely good cause. Random hour cuts and a mean manager probably wouldn't qualify unfortunately.

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Mei Wong

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Why don't you try to get yourself fired instead? Like start showing up late or something? Then you might have a better chance at getting unemployment benefits from NYS Department of Labor.

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Zoe Stavros

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That's actually terrible advice. If you get fired for misconduct, you'll definitely be disqualified from unemployment. NYS Department of Labor will investigate the reason for termination and misconduct disqualifies you just like quitting does.

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Liam Sullivan

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Ugh I'm dealing with something similar at my job. Have you tried calling NYS Department of Labor directly to ask about your specific situation? I've been trying to get through for weeks but the phone lines are always busy. It's so frustrating when you need answers and can't reach anyone!!

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honestly the whole unemployment system is rigged against workers anyway. they make it so hard to get benefits even when you deserve them. like why should you have to stay in a toxic job just to maybe get unemployment later?? makes no sense

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Exactly! It's like they want us to suffer in bad jobs forever. There has to be some kind of protection for workers in situations like this.

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Vince Eh

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Have you documented any of the issues you're facing at work? If the manager is creating a hostile work environment, cutting your hours arbitrarily, or there are safety concerns, you might have grounds to argue "constructive dismissal" - where the working conditions are so bad that a reasonable person would feel forced to quit. NYS Department of Labor does recognize this in some cases. I'd suggest keeping records of any incidents, communications about hour cuts, or other problematic behavior before making any decisions. You could also file a complaint with the Department of Labor about working conditions while still employed, which might strengthen your case later if you do need to leave.

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CyberSamurai

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This is really good advice about documenting everything! @Andre Rousseau you should definitely start keeping records if you haven t'already. Take screenshots of your schedule changes, write down what the manager says/does, maybe even record incidents with dates and times. Even if you don t'end up using it for unemployment, having documentation could help if you need to file complaints with other agencies. The constructive dismissal angle is worth exploring - if they re'making your work life unbearable on purpose, that s'different from just not liking your job.

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Vanessa Chang

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Before you make any decisions, I'd strongly recommend reaching out to a worker's rights organization or legal aid clinic in your area. Many offer free consultations and can help you understand your options better than just guessing about NYS Department of Labor rules. They might also help you identify if what you're experiencing constitutes workplace violations that could support an unemployment claim. In the meantime, as others have suggested, document everything - but also look into filing complaints with the appropriate agencies while you're still employed. Sometimes having an active complaint on file can actually protect you if you do end up leaving. Don't just abandon the job without exploring all your options first - there might be ways to address the situation that you haven't considered yet.

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This is really solid advice @Vanessa Chang! I was in a similar situation last year and wish I had reached out to legal aid first. They actually helped me realize that some of what was happening at my workplace was illegal (wage theft from the schedule changes) and I was able to file complaints that led to getting back pay. Plus having those official complaints on file really helped when I eventually did have to leave and apply for benefits. The whole process was way less scary with someone knowledgeable walking me through it. @Andre Rousseau definitely don t'just walk away without exploring these options - you might have more power in this situation than you think!

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Dmitry Volkov

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Hey Andre, I went through something really similar last year. One thing that helped me was looking into whether my employer was violating labor laws - like if they're cutting your hours without proper notice or creating an unsafe work environment, that could actually work in your favor for an unemployment claim. NYS Department of Labor has specific rules about "good cause" for leaving, and some things that seem like normal bad management are actually violations. You might want to file a complaint with the Department of Labor about the working conditions WHILE you're still employed - this creates a paper trail that shows you tried to address the issues before leaving. Even if you don't get the workplace issues resolved, having that complaint on file can really strengthen your case if you do end up having to quit and apply for benefits.

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Natalia Stone

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This is exactly what I was hoping to hear @Dmitry Volkov! I had no idea that filing complaints while still employed could actually help my case later. That makes so much sense - it shows I tried to fix things before just walking away. Do you know what specific types of violations I should be looking for? Like you mentioned the hour cuts without notice - is there a minimum notice requirement in NY? I definitely want to explore this route before I do anything drastic. Thanks for sharing your experience, it gives me hope that there might be a better way to handle this situation!

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Malik Jackson

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I was in a really similar situation a few months ago - toxic manager, unpredictable schedule changes, the whole nightmare. What I learned is that just walking away without notice is definitely risky for unemployment benefits, but there are some strategies that worked for me. First, I started documenting EVERYTHING - every time my hours got cut, every inappropriate comment from management, every policy violation I witnessed. Then I filed complaints with NYS Department of Labor about the scheduling issues and workplace environment while I was still employed. This created an official record that I was trying to address legitimate workplace problems. When I eventually had to leave (I gave two weeks notice citing the documented issues), my unemployment claim was approved because I had established a pattern of trying to resolve workplace violations before quitting. The key is building that paper trail that shows you didn't just abandon your job on a whim, but were responding to genuine workplace problems that your employer failed to address.

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Amara Adeyemi

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This is incredibly helpful @Malik Jackson! Your approach sounds much smarter than just walking away. I'm curious - when you filed those complaints with NYS Department of Labor while still employed, did your employer find out? I'm worried about retaliation if I start filing official complaints while I'm still working there. Also, how long did the whole process take from when you started documenting to when you finally left and got approved for benefits? I'm trying to figure out if I can mentally handle staying there long enough to build up that paper trail you're talking about.

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