Wife has no income as SAHM - should I file jointly or separately and claim her as dependent?
So my situation is that my wife left her job last year to be a full-time stay at home mom for our toddler. She literally has zero income now while I'm working and bringing in all the household money. I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to handle our taxes this year. In the past when she was working, we always filed jointly but now I'm wondering if there's any benefit to filing separately and maybe claiming her as a dependent on my return? Would that give us better tax savings? Or should we stick with filing jointly even though she has no income? Just trying to maximize our refund situation since we're down to one income now.
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Malik Robinson
Filing jointly is almost always better than filing separately when you're married. You cannot claim your spouse as a dependent regardless of whether they have income or not - that's not allowed under tax law. When you file jointly, you'll get a larger standard deduction ($27,700 for 2024 for married filing jointly vs $13,850 for single or married filing separately). You'll also generally have more favorable tax brackets when filing jointly. Plus, many tax credits and deductions have income limits that are more generous for joint filers. The only time married filing separately might make sense is if one spouse has significant medical expenses, student loan payments, or in certain situations involving income-based repayment plans. But for most families with one income earner, joint filing will result in a lower overall tax bill.
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Isabella Silva
•Thanks for this explanation! I've always been confused about this. Quick question - does it matter that my spouse makes absolutely nothing at all? Like literally $0? And also, do we still need to include her SSN on the return if we file jointly even though she has no income to report?
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Malik Robinson
•It doesn't matter that your spouse makes $0 - you still can't claim her as a dependent, and filing jointly will almost certainly give you a better tax outcome. The tax code specifically prohibits claiming a spouse as a dependent. Yes, you definitely need to include her SSN on the tax return when filing jointly. She's still a taxpayer even with zero income, and the return is filed under both your names. The IRS uses both SSNs to process the return properly and to ensure everything matches their records.
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Ravi Choudhury
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Freya Andersen
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Omar Farouk
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Ravi Choudhury
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Omar Farouk
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Anastasia Popova
Another thing to consider is that filing jointly gives you access to the IRA deduction even if your spouse doesn't have income. With married filing jointly, the non-working spouse can contribute to an IRA (sometimes called a spousal IRA) up to the annual limit ($6,500 for 2023, $7,000 for 2024 if under 50), which could potentially be deductible depending on your income level. This is a tax advantage you wouldn't get filing separately.
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GalaxyGlider
•Wait, I didn't know about this! So you're saying my wife can have her own IRA even though she doesn't earn any income? How exactly does that work with the deduction part? Do we both get deductions?
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Anastasia Popova
•Yes, that's exactly right! When filing jointly, a non-working spouse can contribute to their own IRA even with zero earned income. This is sometimes called a "spousal IRA" though it's actually just a regular IRA. The working spouse must have enough earned income to cover both contributions. For the deduction part, it depends on your income and whether you have a retirement plan at work. If you're covered by a retirement plan at work, the deduction begins to phase out at higher income levels (for 2024, phase-out begins at $123,000 for MFJ). If you're not covered by a workplace plan, you can likely deduct the full contribution regardless of income. Each IRA contribution can potentially give its own deduction, effectively doubling your IRA-related tax benefits.
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Sean Flanagan
Don't forget about the Earned Income Tax Credit! If you have kids, filing jointly with a lower overall income (since your wife doesn't work) might make you eligible for EITC depending on how much you make.
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Zara Shah
•That's not totally accurate. You need earned income to qualify for EITC. Just having kids isn't enough - the "E" in EITC stands for Earned. If his income is too high, they won't qualify regardless of filing status.
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Teresa Boyd
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I was in a very similar situation when my husband stopped working to care for our newborn. Beyond the tax advantages everyone mentioned, there are some practical benefits to filing jointly that aren't always obvious. For instance, if you ever need to apply for certain government programs or benefits, having a joint return can sometimes be required or preferred. Also, if your wife decides to go back to work later in the year or starts any freelance/gig work, filing jointly makes it much easier to handle those income changes without having to amend returns. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're both familiar with the tax return details even though only one of you is earning. Banks, mortgage companies, and other financial institutions will often want to see both spouses' information when you apply for loans or refinancing, and it's helpful if you're both up to speed on your tax situation. The bottom line is definitely file jointly - you'll save money and avoid complications down the road!
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