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Isaiah Thompson

Why does my tax refund decrease when adding second 1098 mortgage interest form?

We bought a house in late 2021 with two separate mortgage loans. The main mortgage covers 90% of the home value, while the second smaller loan (from my husband's employer) covers the remaining 10%. Here's where I'm confused... when I enter the first 1098 form from our primary mortgage into TurboTax, our refund jumps up quite a bit as we switch from standard deduction to itemizing. Makes sense. But then when I add the second 1098 for the employer loan, our estimated refund actually DECREASES by about $280. Shouldn't additional mortgage interest make our refund bigger, not smaller? I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why adding more deductible interest would reduce our refund. Has anyone else experienced this or know what might be happening?

Ruby Garcia

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This is actually a common situation with two mortgages. What's likely happening is that your tax software is applying the mortgage interest deduction limit rules. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act limits mortgage interest deductions to loans totaling $750,000 (for loans taken after Dec 15, 2017). When you enter just the first mortgage, the software is calculating your deduction normally. But when you add the second mortgage, the combined total might be hitting or exceeding certain thresholds that trigger limitation rules, especially if it's an employer loan which might have different treatment. Another possibility is that the second loan might be considered a home equity loan rather than a primary mortgage. Home equity loan interest is only deductible if the loan was used specifically for buying, building, or substantially improving the home - not for other purposes.

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But wouldn't more mortgage interest still give a bigger deduction even with those limits? Unless they're already at the $750k cap with just the first mortgage?

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Ruby Garcia

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Good question! A bigger deduction doesn't always mean a bigger refund if other factors come into play. The second loan might be triggering AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) calculations or affecting other aspects of your tax situation. The $750,000 cap is on the total loan amount, not the interest paid. So if your combined mortgages exceed this, not all the interest would be deductible. Additionally, if the second loan is categorized differently in the tax software (like as a home equity loan), and wasn't used for home improvements, the interest might not be deductible at all.

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KhalilStar

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Are both loans actually mortgages? Or is one a home equity line of credit? Also, is the employer loan being reported as some kind of benefit on your W-2? Sometimes employer loans come with benefits that might be taxable which could offset the interest deduction.

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Both are definitely mortgages - we used them simultaneously to purchase the home (one conventional loan and one through the employer's first-time homebuyer assistance program). The employer loan doesn't show up anywhere on the W-2, it's a completely separate arrangement with its own 1098. I'm wondering if it's because the employer loan has a much lower interest rate (2.5% compared to 3.25% on the main mortgage), and that's somehow affecting the overall calculation? Could a lower rate on the second mortgage somehow reduce the total benefit?

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KhalilStar

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That's interesting. Even with the lower rate, more interest should still be more deduction. The fact that it's an employer loan makes me think there might be some fringe benefit taxation going on behind the scenes. Check if the interest rate on the employer loan is below market rate. If it is (which 2.5% would likely qualify as), the IRS can consider the difference between your rate and the market rate as taxable income - essentially treating the below-market rate as a benefit from your employer. This "imputed income" might be what's reducing your refund when you add the second 1098.

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Has anyone checked if the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) is getting triggered? I had something similar happen where adding more deductions actually increased my AMT liability which offset the benefit. Worth checking that section of your return.

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Kaiya Rivera

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This is a really good point. AMT can definitely cause this kind of counterintuitive result. The software should tell you if AMT is being applied though - there's usually an AMT worksheet or form that appears.

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