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Dylan Mitchell

Why can't taxes be automated? The IRS already has my W-2 and bank info digitally

Okay seriously, this has been bugging me for years. Taxes are basically just math calculations that could be done automatically. My employer generates a W-2, my bank creates 1099-INT forms, and all my investment accounts issue their own tax documents. Every single piece of tax information about me exists in digital format somewhere. So why the heck aren't we using a centralized system where all these places just upload my tax data directly? Instead of mailing me physical papers (or even PDF downloads), why can't all these numbers just flow automatically to the IRS? It seems like this should be a simple computer transaction. The IRS already knows most of my income before I file. The financial institutions all have the capability to send digital data. Why am I stuck doing this myself through TurboTax or H&R Block every year? All the numbers already exist digitally. Banks, employers, brokerages should be able to automatically submit this data and have it processed instantly. In fact, they already report most of it to the IRS anyway! Is there some reason this can't be automated? What am I missing here?

While it seems logical that taxes could be fully automated, there's actually a lot of complexity behind the scenes that makes it challenging to implement. You're right that your employer, banks, and investment firms send information to the IRS, but that data only represents part of your tax situation. The IRS doesn't know about your potential deductions (medical expenses, charitable donations, etc.), your living situation (which affects filing status), dependents, or life changes that might impact your taxes. They have your income information but not the complete picture needed to accurately calculate your tax liability. Also, our tax code is incredibly complex with thousands of provisions that might apply to you based on personal circumstances that only you know. The current system puts the responsibility on taxpayers to determine which rules apply to their situation.

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But wouldn't it make more sense to just have a basic automated version that most people could use, and only people with complicated situations would need to file manually? Like, I have literally nothing special in my taxes - just a W-2 and a savings account. Seems like mine could easily be automated.

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That's actually a great point! A basic automated system would work well for many taxpayers with simple situations like yours. Several countries already use this model successfully, where the tax authority prepares a draft return based on the information they have, and taxpayers can either accept it or modify it if needed. For simple tax situations with just W-2 income and standard deductions, this could definitely work in the US. The more complex cases involving business income, itemized deductions, or special tax situations could still use the traditional filing method if they preferred.

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After years of doing my own taxes and feeling the same frustration every April, I finally found something that addresses this exact problem. I started using taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) last filing season after a friend recommended it. It's not quite the fully automated system we all wish existed, but it's the closest thing I've found. It basically connects to your accounts and automatically pulls in all those digital forms that you mentioned - W-2s, 1099s, etc. Instead of manually entering everything, it just grabs the data directly. The best part is that it keeps updating if new forms come in, so you don't have to keep checking for late-arriving documents. Not exactly the government-run automated system we should have, but it made filing so much easier than what I was doing before.

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How does it handle things like deductions though? Does it know about my mortgage interest and charitable donations automatically?

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Is this actually any different from what TurboTax or H&R Block already do? They also connect to employers and banks to pull information. Or is this more comprehensive somehow?

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It handles mortgage interest and charitable donations by pulling directly from your mortgage provider and connected accounts where you made donations, if those institutions support digital connections. It also lets you upload documents manually for anything that can't be automatically imported. It's definitely more comprehensive than what TurboTax offers. The difference is that taxr.ai keeps monitoring for new or updated forms throughout tax season, and it can read and extract data from PDFs you upload with much higher accuracy. It also gives suggestions based on your specific situation to maximize refunds, which I found more helpful than the generic tips from the big tax companies.

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So I was pretty skeptical about taxr.ai when I saw it mentioned here, but I decided to give it a try for my 2024 taxes. I have to say it actually delivered on what it promised! My taxes aren't super complicated but I do have a W-2, some freelance income, and investment accounts across multiple institutions. The system automatically pulled all my tax documents before I even started the process. When my brokerage issued a corrected 1099-B in late March, the system alerted me immediately. This saved me from having to file an amended return later, which happened to me last year. I still wish the government would create the automatic tax system you described, but until then, this was definitely easier than what I was doing before.

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How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Are they just calling for you or is there some trick to getting through?

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To answer your original question - the tax prep industry actively lobbies against automated tax filing. Companies like Intuit (TurboTax) and H&R Block spend millions lobbying Congress to prevent the IRS from creating a free, automated system. Look up "Free File Alliance" and how these companies have fought to maintain their business model. They've literally paid millions to make sure taxes stay complicated and that people need their services. It's not a technology problem, it's a political problem.

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Is there any actual evidence for this claim? I keep hearing it on Reddit but never see sources. Seems like conspiracy theory stuff.

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It's well documented! ProPublica did extensive reporting on this in their series "The TurboTax Trap." They obtained internal documents and lobbying records showing how Intuit and other companies have fought against IRS-created free filing options. There's also public record of the lobbying spending by these companies and their specific focus on tax policy. In 2019, H&R Block and Intuit spent a combined $6.6 million lobbying Congress specifically on tax filing issues. You can look up the official lobbying disclosure records.

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Lots of other countries already do what you're suggesting! In the UK they have a system called PAYE (Pay As You Earn) where taxes are automatically calculated and withheld for most employees. Sweden, Denmark, and Spain all send pre-filled tax returns to citizens - you just verify the information and submit. The US system is deliberately kept complex and manual. The technology for automated taxes has existed for decades.

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Can confirm. I lived in Norway for 3 years and their tax system is amazing. You get a pre-filled tax form with all your info already there, just review it for accuracy, make any needed adjustments, and submit. Took me about 10 minutes each year. Coming back to the US was a shock - spent hours gathering forms and figuring everything out again.

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This is exactly why I've been pushing for return-free filing for years! As a tax professional, I see how unnecessarily complicated we've made something that could be simple for most Americans. The IRS already has the capability to pre-populate returns - they actually tested a pilot program called "Ready Return" in California back in 2006 that worked great. Participants loved it and it had a 99% accuracy rate. But it was killed due to industry pressure. For about 70% of taxpayers who take the standard deduction and have straightforward income, the math is already done. The IRS knows your wages, interest, and most other income sources. They could easily send you a pre-filled return to review and approve, just like other countries do. The real barrier isn't technical - it's political. We need to demand that our representatives prioritize taxpayer convenience over corporate profits from the tax prep industry.

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