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Sofia Rodriguez

Which tax form should I use as an F1 visa holder - W9 or W8BEN?

I'm super confused about my tax situation right now. I'm about to finish my OPT and have been working for several different employers, mostly contract/freelance positions. Most of these employers asked me to fill out a W9 form, which I did because I've been paying taxes for the past few years, have a valid SSN, and have lived in the US for about 4 years. But I just realized that Form W9 is actually only supposed to be for US citizens and residents! Now I'm freaking out because I've already sent W9 forms to like 6 different employers and I'm worried that wasn't the right form for my situation. As an F1 visa holder, am I considered a resident for tax purposes? Should I have been filling out W8BEN forms instead? Do I need to contact all these employers and tell them I submitted the wrong form? Really stressing about this and wondering if I've messed up my taxes or visa status somehow.

Dmitry Ivanov

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Your concern is completely understandable, but let me help clarify this for you. As an F1 student on OPT, your tax residency status depends on how long you've been physically present in the US. The IRS uses what's called the "Substantial Presence Test" to determine if you're a resident alien (requiring W9) or nonresident alien (requiring W8BEN). Generally, F1 students are considered nonresident aliens for their first 5 calendar years in the US. However, once you meet the Substantial Presence Test, you may be considered a resident alien for tax purposes even while still on an F1 visa. Given that you've been in the US for 4 years, you should check if you qualify as a resident alien under this test. If you do, then the W9 forms you submitted are actually correct. If not, you would need to submit W8BEN forms instead. I'd recommend calculating your days of presence using the IRS guidelines and determining your correct status. Then, if needed, contact the employers to correct the forms.

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Ava Thompson

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Wait, I'm in a similar situation but I've only been here for 2 years on F1. So that means I definitely need to use W8BEN, right? Also, does the substantial presence test count days differently for students vs workers? My university's international office gave me conflicting info.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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For F1 students who have been in the US for less than 5 calendar years, you're generally exempt from the Substantial Presence Test, meaning you're considered a nonresident alien and should use Form W8BEN rather than W9. The test does count days differently for F1 students. During your first 5 calendar years in the US, you're considered an "exempt individual," which means those days don't count toward the Substantial Presence Test. After 5 years, your days start counting, and you may become a resident alien for tax purposes if you meet the threshold.

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Does taxr.ai actually handle international student visa situations? I talked to my school's international office and they weren't super helpful. What specific documents did you need to upload for it to determine your status?

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Connor Murphy

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Paolo Romano

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This is actually a really common mistake for international students. I'm an academic advisor at a university and see this confusion all the time. If you've been filing tax returns in the US, you probably have a record of your residency status there. Have you looked at your previous tax returns? They should indicate whether you filed as a resident (Form 1040) or nonresident alien (Form 1040NR). Also don't panic too much - filing the wrong information form isn't the end of the world. Employers are used to international students making corrections as they learn about the system.

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Thank you so much for the advice! I just checked my previous tax returns and I've been filing 1040NR for the past four years, which I guess means I've been considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes. Would that definitely mean I should be using W8BEN instead of W9? I'm worried because I've sent out so many W9 forms already.

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Paolo Romano

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If you've been filing Form 1040NR, then yes, that confirms you've been considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes, and you should indeed be using Form W8BEN instead of W9. Don't worry too much about having sent W9 forms already. This is a fixable situation. Simply contact your employers, explain the situation, and provide them with a completed W8BEN form. Most employers who work with international students or contractors are familiar with this scenario and have processes to make corrections. The important thing is to address it before tax forms like 1099s are issued to you, which typically happens after the calendar year ends.

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Amina Diop

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Just want to add something important - if you're using W8BEN, don't forget to check if there's a tax treaty between the US and your home country! I'm from India, and there's a treaty that can reduce withholding on certain types of income. Saved me like $3000 last year when I finally figured this out.

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This is so important! I'm from the UK and didn't claim treaty benefits for my first two years because I didn't know about it. When I finally submitted the right form (W8BEN with treaty claims), my tax withholding dropped by like 15%! Do you know if there's a way to claim those benefits retroactively for previous years?

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Vanessa Chang

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Yes, you can definitely claim treaty benefits retroactively! You'll need to file amended tax returns (Form 1040X if you filed as a resident, or Form 1040NR-X if you filed as a nonresident) for those previous years. Make sure to include the treaty claim and any supporting documentation. I did this for 2022 and 2021 and got refunds for the excess withholding. The IRS generally allows you to amend returns for up to 3 years from the original filing date, so you might still be able to recover those overpaid taxes. Just be prepared - the amended return process can take several months to process.

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Yara Sayegh

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I went through this exact same situation last year! As an F1 student who had been in the US for 3 years, I was also confused about which form to use. After doing a lot of research and speaking with my university's international student services, I learned that the key is understanding your tax residency status. Since you've been filing Form 1040NR (nonresident tax returns) for the past four years, that confirms you're still considered a nonresident alien for tax purposes. This means you should be using Form W8BEN, not W9. The good news is that this is a very common mistake and employers are usually understanding about corrections. Here's what I did to fix it: I drafted a brief email to each employer explaining that as an F1 visa holder, I needed to correct my tax forms and attached a completed W8BEN form. Most employers responded within a few days and updated their records without any issues. Also, definitely check if your home country has a tax treaty with the US! I'm from Germany and was able to claim treaty benefits that significantly reduced my tax withholding. You can find the treaty information on the IRS website or ask your international student office - they usually have resources about this. Don't stress too much about this - you caught the error and you're fixing it proactively, which is exactly what you should do!

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Tony Brooks

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This is such helpful advice! I'm also an F1 student (just finished my second year) and I've been so confused about all this tax stuff. Your experience gives me hope that it's not as scary as it seems to fix these mistakes. Quick question - when you contacted your employers about switching from W9 to W8BEN, did any of them ask for additional documentation beyond just the new form? I'm worried they might want proof of my visa status or something. Also, did you have to do anything special with employers you'd already stopped working for, or just current ones? Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing!

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Carmen Diaz

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@Tony Brooks Most employers didn t'ask for additional documentation beyond the W8BEN form itself, but a couple did request a copy of my I-20 to verify my student status. I d'recommend having a current copy ready just in case, but don t'worry if you don t'have it immediately - they usually give you time to provide it. For employers I was no longer working with, I still contacted them because they might still need to issue 1099 forms at the end of the tax year. It s'actually easier to fix this now than to deal with incorrect tax documents later! Most were very responsive via email, and a few even thanked me for being proactive about it. One tip: when you email them, mention that you re'an F1 student and that W8BEN is the correct form for your visa status. This shows you understand the requirements and aren t'just randomly switching forms. The international student office at your school might also have template letters you can use - mine did, and it made the process much smoother. You ve'got this! The fact that you re'asking these questions shows you re'being responsible about your tax obligations.

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Arjun Kurti

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Sofia, I completely understand your stress about this situation! I'm also an F1 visa holder and went through the exact same confusion last year. The fact that you've been filing Form 1040NR for the past four years is actually the key piece of information here - it confirms that you've been correctly classified as a nonresident alien for tax purposes, which means you should indeed be using Form W8BEN instead of W9. Don't panic about having sent W9 forms to multiple employers - this is honestly one of the most common mistakes international students make, and employers who work with contractors are usually very familiar with these corrections. The important thing is that you're addressing it now, before the end of the tax year when 1099 forms get issued. Here's what I'd recommend: Draft a simple email to each employer explaining that as an F1 visa holder, you need to correct your tax documentation from W9 to W8BEN. Attach a completed W8BEN form and briefly mention that this is the correct form for your nonresident alien status. Most employers will update their records without any issues. Also, definitely look into whether your home country has a tax treaty with the US - you might be eligible for treaty benefits that could reduce your tax withholding. Your university's international student office should have resources about this, or you can check the IRS website for treaty information. You haven't messed up your visa status at all by submitting the wrong form - this is purely a tax documentation issue that's easily fixable. You're being proactive about correcting it, which is exactly what you should do!

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Yuki Sato

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This is such great advice, Arjun! I'm also an F1 student and have been lurking on this thread because I'm dealing with a similar situation. Your point about this being a common mistake really helps ease my anxiety about it. Quick question - when you mention checking for tax treaty benefits, do you know roughly how much of a difference this typically makes? I'm from Canada and I've been paying what feels like a lot in taxes, but I have no idea if I'm missing out on treaty benefits. Also, did your university's international office actually help you figure out the treaty stuff, or did you have to research it yourself? Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation!

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