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Hunter Brighton

When exactly does the IRS withdraw tax payments during the day? Accidentally scheduled on my payday

So I kinda messed up and scheduled my automatic tax payment to come out on the same day I get paid. I'm stressing out that the IRS might try to pull the money before my direct deposit hits my account. My employer isn't one of those that posts deposits right at midnight - sometimes the money doesn't show up until late morning or even afternoon. I just want this whole tax thing behind me without any overdraft fees or payment issues with the IRS. Does anyone know what time of day the IRS actually processes these automatic withdrawals? Do they pull funds at midnight, in the morning, or later in the day? I'm really anxious about this timing issue and would appreciate any insights from people who've gone through this before.

Dylan Baskin

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The IRS typically processes electronic payments, including direct debits, early in the morning on the scheduled day - usually between 1:00 AM and 3:00 AM Eastern Time. However, this can vary somewhat depending on your bank's processing times. If your employer doesn't deposit until later in the day, you might be at risk for an overdraft. You have a couple options: 1) Contact the IRS immediately at 1-888-353-4537 to cancel the scheduled payment (you need to do this at least 2 business days before the scheduled payment date), or 2) Call your bank to see if they can help prioritize the incoming deposit before the withdrawal or possibly place a temporary overdraft protection on your account. The IRS doesn't actually "retry" failed payments automatically - if there are insufficient funds, the payment simply fails, and you'll need to make new arrangements. It's always better to be proactive rather than dealing with a failed payment.

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Lauren Wood

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Thanks for this info! Do you know if there's a penalty if the payment fails? Also, if I cancel the current payment, how quickly can I reschedule it for a different date?

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Dylan Baskin

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If your payment fails due to insufficient funds, the IRS may charge a penalty (typically around $25-$30) depending on the amount you're trying to pay. Additionally, if the payment was for taxes due, you'll start accruing interest and late payment penalties from the due date until you successfully make the payment. You can reschedule a new payment immediately after canceling the current one. The IRS electronic payment system allows you to schedule a new payment right away, but remember to select a date when you're certain you'll have sufficient funds. You can schedule it just 1-2 days later than your original date if needed.

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Ellie Lopez

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Does it actually work with the IRS systems directly? Like can it access my IRS account or do I have to manually input everything?

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Paige Cantoni

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I'm skeptical. How does a third party service know exactly when the IRS processes payments? Sounds like they're just making educated guesses like everyone else.

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Ellie Lopez

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Paige Cantoni

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Kylo Ren

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Jason Brewer

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Kylo Ren

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Pro tip from someone who's dealt with this multiple times: Always schedule tax payments at least 2 days AFTER your payday to be safe. The IRS doesn't specify exact times because it also depends on your bank's processing schedule. My credit union sometimes processes ACH withdrawals in batches at different times (6am, noon, and 5pm), so even the same bank can be inconsistent.

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Liam Cortez

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Does this 2-day buffer also apply to estimated quarterly tax payments? I'm self-employed and always worried about timing those correctly.

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Yes, the 2-day buffer is even more important for quarterly estimated payments. With quarterly payments, the penalties for late payment can add up quickly if something goes wrong. For self-employed folks, I actually recommend a 3-day buffer after your largest client payments typically clear your account. The quarterly due dates (April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15) are already stressful enough without adding payment processing timing issues. Just remember that scheduling a payment a few days before the due date is considered "on time" - you don't have to wait until the exact due date.

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Savannah Vin

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I called my bank (Wells Fargo) about this exact issue last year, and they told me the IRS payments typically process between 4-6 AM in their system. But they also mentioned they could put a "deposit first" note on my account for that day to prioritize processing my direct deposit before any withdrawals if I was concerned about timing.

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Mason Stone

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That's really helpful! Did they charge any fee for that special handling? My bank (BofA) always seems to charge for everything.

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Diego Chavez

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One thing that helped me tremendously when I was in your exact situation was contacting my bank's customer service line early in the morning (around 7 AM) on the day before my scheduled payment. They were able to see both my pending direct deposit and the scheduled IRS withdrawal, and they actually moved my direct deposit to process first thing that morning instead of later in the day. Most banks have some flexibility with deposit timing, especially if you explain it's to avoid an overdraft from a government payment. They'd rather help you avoid the overdraft than deal with the fees and potential issues later. Even if your employer doesn't deposit at midnight, your bank might be able to prioritize it earlier in their processing queue. Also, keep your bank's customer service number handy and check your account first thing in the morning on payment day. If you see the IRS withdrawal processed but your deposit hasn't hit yet, call immediately - sometimes they can reverse or hold the withdrawal for a few hours while your deposit processes.

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This is really great advice! I never thought about calling the bank proactively to ask them to prioritize my deposit. Do you know if most banks are willing to do this kind of special handling, or was this something specific to your bank? I'm with a smaller regional bank and wondering if they'd have the same flexibility with their processing systems.

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I actually work for a regional bank (can't say which one for obvious reasons), and I can tell you that most banks do have some flexibility with ACH processing timing, especially for situations like this. The key is calling early - ideally the day before or very early morning on the day of your payment. When you call, explain that you have a government payment (IRS) scheduled and want to avoid an overdraft. Most customer service reps can put a note on your account to process deposits before withdrawals that day. It's not guaranteed, but banks generally prefer helping customers avoid overdrafts rather than dealing with the aftermath. Smaller regional banks often have MORE flexibility than the big national banks because they have fewer automated systems and more manual oversight of daily processing. Your regional bank might actually be better positioned to help than somewhere like Chase or Wells Fargo. The worst they can say is no, but in my experience, most banks will try to accommodate reasonable requests like this, especially if you're a customer in good standing. Just be polite and explain the situation clearly - government payments carry more weight than regular bill pays in these conversations.

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Anna Stewart

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who actually works in banking! I'm with a small credit union and was worried they wouldn't have the systems in place to handle something like this, but it sounds like the opposite might be true. I really appreciate the tip about mentioning it's a government payment - I wouldn't have thought that would make a difference, but it makes sense that banks would take IRS payments more seriously. I'm definitely going to call first thing tomorrow morning before my payment is scheduled. Even if they can't guarantee anything, just having them aware of the situation and putting a note on my account gives me some peace of mind. Thanks for taking the time to share your insider perspective - it's exactly the kind of practical advice I was hoping to find!

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I had this exact same panic attack situation two years ago! Here's what I learned from my bank rep after it was all over: most banks actually process incoming ACH deposits (like your paycheck) in a separate batch from outgoing ACH debits (like IRS payments), and they typically run deposits first in the early morning hours. The timing usually goes: 1) Incoming deposits process around 2-4 AM, 2) Account balances update, 3) Outgoing payments/debits process around 4-7 AM. This sequence is designed to minimize overdrafts for exactly the situation you're describing. That said, every bank is different, and some employers send payroll files later than others. The safest bet is definitely calling your bank TODAY to explain the situation. Most banks can put a temporary note on your account to ensure deposits are processed before any withdrawals on that specific date. Don't stress too much though - this timing conflict is way more common than you'd think, and banks have procedures to handle it. The fact that you're being proactive about it puts you in a much better position than someone who just hopes for the best!

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Yuki Watanabe

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This is such helpful information about the typical processing order! I had no idea that deposits usually get processed before debits - that actually makes me feel a lot less anxious about my situation. The timeline you described (deposits 2-4 AM, then debits 4-7 AM) gives me hope that even if my employer's direct deposit doesn't hit at midnight, it might still process before the IRS withdrawal. I'm definitely calling my bank first thing tomorrow morning to put that temporary note on my account. It's reassuring to know this is a common situation and that banks have procedures for it. I was imagining myself as the only person dumb enough to schedule payments on the same day as payday, but clearly I'm not alone in this timing stress! Thanks for sharing your experience and breaking down the typical processing sequence - it really helps to understand how these systems actually work behind the scenes.

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Dmitry Popov

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I completely understand your stress about this timing issue! I went through something very similar last year and learned a few things that might help ease your anxiety. First, while the IRS typically initiates withdrawals early in the morning (usually between 2-6 AM), your bank's processing order can work in your favor. Most banks process incoming deposits (like your paycheck) before outgoing debits (like tax payments) during their daily batch processing. This means even if your employer doesn't deposit at midnight, there's still a good chance your direct deposit will hit before the IRS withdrawal is processed. That said, here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. Call your bank's customer service line first thing tomorrow morning and explain the situation. Ask them to put a note on your account to prioritize your direct deposit before processing any withdrawals that day. Most banks will accommodate this request, especially when you mention it's to avoid an overdraft from a government payment. 2. If you're still worried, you can contact the IRS at 1-888-353-4537 to cancel the scheduled payment (you need at least 2 business days notice), then reschedule it for a safer date. 3. Check your account early on payment day and keep your bank's number handy - if you see any timing issues developing, call immediately as they can sometimes hold or reverse transactions for a few hours. Don't beat yourself up over this - it's a really common timing issue that banks deal with regularly. The fact that you're being proactive about it already puts you ahead of the game!

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