What's the real difference between IRC 704(c) and 743(b) for partnerships? Need help understanding

In simple terms, IRC 704(c) and 743(b) deal with different timing and scenarios in partnerships, though both address disparities between tax basis and fair market value. IRC 704(c) applies when a partner contributes property to a partnership that has a different fair market value than its tax basis. This section requires the partnership to track and allocate tax items (like depreciation or gain on sale) to account for that difference. It essentially prevents shifting of built-in gain or loss from the contributing partner to other partners. IRC 743(b), on the other hand, applies when a partnership interest is sold or transferred by death. It allows an optional basis adjustment for the new partner, so they're not taxed on built-in gain that was reflected in their purchase price. This adjustment only affects the incoming partner, unlike 704(c) which affects allocations among all partners.

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Don't forget that Section 754 election is required for 743(b) adjustments to even apply! Made this mistake with my partnership. The election lets you adjust basis under both 743(b) AND 734(b), and once made, it applies to all future years until revoked. Also worth noting that 704(c) allocations require choosing a method - traditional, traditional with curative allocations, or remedial. Each has different impacts on partners. Our CPA never explained this and we were stuck with a method that disadvantaged existing partners for years.

Has anyone used ProSeries to handle these partnership adjustments? I'm trying to figure out how to input our 743(b) basis adjustment for a new partner who bought in at a premium, but the software seems really limited in this area.

One thing nobody mentioned - IRC 704(c) is MANDATORY while 743(b) adjustments only happen if you've made a 754 election. So you don't get to choose whether 704(c) applies to contributed property with built-in gain/loss, but you do get to choose whether to give incoming partners the benefit of 743(b) basis adjustments. Also remember 743(b) only benefits (or occasionally hurts) the specific partner who bought the interest, while 704(c) allocations affect the relationship between all partners. Huge difference in impact on the partnership as a whole!

This is such an important distinction that @ea84046b3a52 just highlighted! The mandatory vs. optional nature is crucial for planning. I learned this the hard way when we restructured our consulting partnership. We had a partner who contributed appreciated real estate years ago, and we discovered we'd been ignoring our 704(c) obligations completely - turns out you can't just "opt out" of tracking built-in gain allocations. The IRS can recharacterize distributions and sales if you're not properly allocating tax items under 704(c). On the flip side, we delayed making our 754 election for our new partner's buy-in because we weren't sure about the long-term implications. Now I wish we'd made it sooner - our new partner is getting hit with depreciation recapture on assets he effectively already "paid for" through his premium purchase price. The key takeaway for @defef4c9b885 - make sure you understand which provisions are already applying to your partnership (like any historical property contributions under 704(c)) versus which elections you need to actively make (754 election for 743(b) benefits).

Great thread everyone! As someone who's been through partnership restructuring twice, I want to emphasize the timing aspect that's crucial for both sections. For IRC 704(c), the clock starts ticking the moment property with built-in gain/loss is contributed. You can't retroactively fix improper allocations - if you've been ignoring 704(c) requirements, you need to address it immediately going forward. The IRS can recast transactions if they find you've been shifting built-in gain between partners. For IRC 743(b), timing is about the 754 election. You can make it in the year of the transfer OR retroactively if you meet certain criteria, but waiting too long can cost your incoming partner thousands in unnecessary taxes. One practical tip: if you're bringing in a new partner next year, model out the tax impact with AND without the 754 election before they buy in. Sometimes the election benefits the new partner but creates administrative headaches for the partnership that aren't worth it. Other times (especially with appreciated assets), it's essential for fairness. Also consider getting a formal 704(c) allocation method documented in your partnership agreement BEFORE any new contributions. Don't leave it to default rules that might not work for your situation.

As someone who recently went through a similar partnership expansion, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help with these provisions - they're more interconnected than they initially appear. One thing that caught me off guard was how 704(c) and 743(b) can actually work together when you have both contributed property AND incoming partners. For example, if your family business has appreciated assets that were contributed years ago (triggering 704(c)), and now you're bringing in a new partner who's buying in at fair market value, that new partner could be getting hit with a double tax burden without proper planning. The new partner pays a premium price that reflects the appreciated assets, but without a 754 election and 743(b) adjustment, they'll still get allocated their share of the built-in gain when those assets are eventually sold. Meanwhile, the 704(c) allocations are supposed to prevent the original contributing partner from shifting their built-in gain to others. I'd suggest mapping out your partnership's asset basis versus fair market values before bringing in the new partner. If there are significant disparities, you'll want both the 704(c) tracking properly documented AND the 754 election in place. The interaction between these provisions can either create a fair outcome for everyone or lead to some partners getting seriously overtaxed. Also, don't forget that once you make the 754 election, it applies to ALL future transfers - including if any current partners eventually sell their interests. Consider the long-term implications beyond just your immediate new partner situation.