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Brandon Parker

What percentage of taxes should be withheld when claiming 0 allowances?

So I started a better paying job back in late 2022 which pushed me into a higher tax bracket. When I filed my 2023 taxes, I ended up owing money for the first time ever. My tax guy told me to change my withholding to 0 allowances to avoid owing for 2024. I changed it last April, but guess what? I STILL owe money this year! I've been talking to coworkers with similar salaries (around $130k/year) who claim 1 allowance and they're paying WAY more in federal taxes than I am. For my $130k salary, they only took about $10.4k in federal taxes. Is 8% even right for claiming 0 allowances? I've been searching everywhere online for a 2024 chart that shows what percentage employers should withhold when you claim 0, but I can't find anything clear. I want to make sure my payroll department isn't messing something up. Why would I still owe if I'm claiming 0? Can anyone help me find a chart showing what percentage should be taken out when claiming 0 allowances? Thanks in advance for any help!

Adriana Cohn

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The issue might not be with your withholding allowances but rather with how the withholding system actually works. The W-4 form changed significantly after 2020, moving away from the "allowances" system to a more straightforward dollar amount adjustment system. When you claim "0" on the old system (or check the "Single" box with no adjustments on the new W-4), the IRS withholding tables don't automatically take a flat percentage. Instead, they calculate based on your pay period income, projected to an annual amount, then apply the progressive tax brackets. That's why you're not seeing a simple percentage chart. For a $130k salary, 8% federal withholding does sound quite low. Most people in that bracket would expect closer to 15-22% depending on their situation. There are several possibilities here: perhaps you have pre-tax deductions reducing your taxable income (like 401k, health insurance), you might have other adjustments listed on your W-4, or there could indeed be a payroll calculation error.

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Jace Caspullo

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Thanks for explaining that! So if I'm understanding correctly, there's no flat percentage that would apply to everyone claiming 0 allowances? Is there any resource where I can check what specifically should be withheld for my salary to make sure my employer is doing it right?

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Adriana Cohn

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You're exactly right - there's no flat percentage for everyone claiming 0 allowances. The withholding amount varies based on your pay frequency, income level, and filing status. The best resource to check your specific situation is the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator at https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator. This tool will help you determine if your current withholding is appropriate for your situation and can suggest adjustments if needed. For more detailed information, you can also look at IRS Publication 15-T, which contains the employer withholding methods and tables, though it's pretty technical.

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Melody Miles

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After struggling with similar withholding issues last year, I started using taxr.ai to figure out why my employer wasn't withholding enough. I uploaded a couple of my pay stubs and filled out some basic info, and it immediately spotted that my employer was using the wrong withholding calculation method for my situation. I showed the analysis to my HR department and they adjusted my withholding formula. Now I'm on track to break even instead of owing thousands again. You can check it out at https://taxr.ai if you want to see if there's a specific issue with how your withholding is being calculated. It was way more helpful than just guessing or asking coworkers who might have completely different tax situations even with similar salaries.

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How exactly does that work? Does it just tell you if your withholding is wrong or does it actually explain what your employer should be doing differently? My HR dept is... not the brightest.

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Eva St. Cyr

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I'm always skeptical of these services. Do you work for them or something? How much does it cost anyway?

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Melody Miles

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It analyzes your pay stubs and tax situation, then shows you exactly what formulas your employer should be using versus what they are using. It generates a report you can take to HR that specifies the correct withholding method they should apply for your specific situation. My HR person actually appreciated having something concrete to reference. I don't work for them at all - just someone who was in your exact situation last year! I found them through another tax forum. They don't charge upfront - they have some kind of satisfaction guarantee where you only pay if it actually helps resolve your issue.

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Eva St. Cyr

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Ok I'll admit I was totally wrong about taxr.ai. After my skeptical comment, I decided to give it a shot anyway because I was desperate (owed $3,800 this year despite claiming 0!). Uploaded my last few pay stubs and answered some questions about my tax situation. The tool showed that my employer was using the percentage method instead of the wage bracket method for my withholding, which apparently wasn't optimal for my specific income level and filing status. I literally just forwarded the report to our payroll coordinator and they made the adjustment the next pay period. Withholding went up about $175 per paycheck, which should prevent me from owing next year. Sorry for being a skeptic before - just wanted to report back that it actually helped me solve this exact problem.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Wait, this actually works? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. How long did you have to wait for them to call you back after using this service?

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Axel Far

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This sounds like a scam. Why would anyone be able to get you through to the IRS faster than just calling them yourself? They probably just take your money and leave you hanging.

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After I used their service, the IRS called me back in about 25 minutes. The normal wait when I tried calling directly was over 2 hours, and I got disconnected twice. They use some kind of system that navigates the IRS phone tree and secures a spot in the callback queue faster than you can do it manually. They're definitely not a scam. They don't actually connect the call themselves - the IRS calls you back directly using their official callback system. The service just helps you get into that queue without the endless hold times. They can't take your money and leave you hanging because you only pay if you actually receive the callback from the IRS.

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Axel Far

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I need to eat some crow here. After posting that skeptical comment about Claimyr, I was still desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my withholding issues. Decided to try it as a last resort yesterday. I honestly can't believe it, but I got a call back from an actual IRS agent in about 30 minutes. The agent confirmed that for my salary ($127K), claiming "0" should result in approximately 18-20% federal withholding, not the 8% I was getting. Turns out my employer was using outdated withholding tables from 2022! The agent gave me specific information to provide to my payroll department. Already got confirmation they're updating their system for the next pay cycle. Would have taken me weeks to figure this out on my own. Definitely worth it just to have confirmation from an official source.

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One thing to consider is that the withholding system isn't perfect and sometimes doesn't account for all scenarios. I was in a similar situation making about $125k and claiming 0 but still owing. In my case, it was because I had a side gig with no withholding, plus investment income. The new W-4 actually has a section for "extra withholding" where you can specify an additional dollar amount to withhold each pay period. I did the math and now have an extra $150 taken out per paycheck, which should cover all the additional income sources. This might be simpler than trying to get your employer to change their withholding calculations.

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Luis Johnson

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How did you figure out exactly how much extra to withhold? I've tried using the IRS calculator but it's so confusing.

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I looked at how much I owed last year and divided it by the number of pay periods. For example, if you owed $3,600 and get paid twice a month (24 pay periods), you'd want to withhold an extra $150 per paycheck. A slightly more precise method is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that someone mentioned above. It will ask for details about all your income sources and your current withholding, then suggest an exact dollar amount for additional withholding. It takes about 15 minutes to complete but gives you a much more accurate number than just guessing.

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Ellie Kim

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Has anyone else noticed that the whole withholding system seems designed to be confusing? I make $134k, claim 0, and yet still ended up owing almost $3k this year. My friend makes LESS than me but somehow gets a refund every year!

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Fiona Sand

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It's because withholding isn't just about the allowances or what you claim on your W-4. It also depends on things like how often you're paid, if you have multiple jobs, investment income, if you itemize deductions, etc. Your friend probably has more withheld throughout the year or has deductions you don't have.

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CosmicCruiser

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I completely understand your frustration! I went through something very similar last year. Making around $132k and claiming 0, I was shocked when I still owed over $2,800 at tax time. After digging into this, I learned that 8% federal withholding for your income level is definitely too low. At $130k with standard deductions, you should expect closer to 16-20% in federal withholding depending on your filing status and pay frequency. A few things that could be causing this issue: 1. Your employer might be using outdated withholding tables 2. They could be incorrectly calculating your withholding method (percentage vs. wage bracket) 3. You might have pre-tax deductions that are reducing your taxable wages more than expected 4. If you get paid irregularly or have bonuses, the withholding calculations can get thrown off I'd recommend downloading your last few pay stubs and checking the year-to-date federal withholding against your gross pay. If it's consistently around 8%, there's definitely something wrong with how your payroll is calculating it. The IRS withholding estimator tool can help you figure out exactly what should be withheld and give you ammunition to take back to your HR department. Don't give up - you shouldn't have to owe money when claiming 0 allowances on a straightforward W-2 salary!

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This is really helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and had no idea that 8% withholding was so far off for that income level. I've been afraid to push back with my HR department because I wasn't sure if I was wrong about the numbers. Quick question - when you say "download your last few pay stubs," what specifically should I be looking for to prove to HR that something's wrong? Is there a particular line item or calculation I should focus on? I want to make sure I have solid evidence before I approach them about this.

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