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Nia Davis

What are the tax benefits of a holding company? Wondering if it's similar to MFS vs MFJ filing status

I'm trying to figure out if setting up a holding company for my investments makes sense from a tax perspective. I've got a bunch of stocks, some rental properties, and a small e-commerce business that's growing. Right now I'm filing everything under my personal taxes and the tax rate is killing me. I'm wondering if a holding company works sort of like the difference between married filing separately vs. married filing jointly? Like when you file MFJ, you combine everything into one return and can end up with a lower overall tax rate. Would a holding company do something similar by grouping all my different income sources? My CPA mentioned it might help with liability protection too, but I'm mainly interested in whether it would reduce my tax burden. Anyone have experience with this? What are the actual tax benefits of setting up a holding company for various investments and business interests?

Mateo Perez

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Financial advisor here. A holding company is quite different from the MFS vs MFJ comparison. The married filing status comparison is about individual tax rates, while a holding company is a completely separate legal entity. The main tax benefits of a holding company include: 1) Tax deferral - keeping profits in the holding company can be taxed at corporate rates which might be lower than personal rates, 2) Income splitting - paying dividends to family shareholders can reduce overall family tax burden, 3) Capital gains exemptions - potential exemptions on sales of qualifying shares, 4) Tax-free intercorporate dividends - dividends between your companies can often flow tax-free, and 5) Expense deductions - legitimate business expenses can be deducted against income. However, there are complexities involved including maintaining proper corporate records, potential for double taxation if not structured properly, and ongoing compliance costs.

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Aisha Rahman

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So if I have a few rental properties and some investments, would putting them in a holding company actually save me money on taxes? Or is it only worth it for bigger businesses? I make about $180k a year from my regular job and another $45k from my rentals.

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Mateo Perez

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For your situation with rental properties and investments alongside a $180k salary, a holding company might be beneficial but requires careful analysis. The tax advantages really depend on your specific financial situation and future plans. If you're planning to reinvest profits rather than taking them out as personal income, a holding company could allow you to retain more capital by deferring personal taxes. This works well if your marginal personal tax rate is higher than the corporate rate. However, if you need to withdraw most profits for living expenses, the advantage diminishes since you'll ultimately pay personal tax on distributions.

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Jamal Carter

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One tax benefit of holding companies nobody's mentioned yet is asset protection. I put my three rental properties into an LLC that's owned by my holding company. Now if a tenant sues for one property, they can't go after the other properties or my personal assets. The tax benefits were secondary for me - being able to deduct more management expenses was nice but the asset protection was the real win. Just make sure you're actually running it like a real company with separate accounts and proper documentation.

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But don't you get hit with franchise taxes in most states when you set up those LLCs? I heard California charges $800 minimum per LLC, so with multiple properties that adds up fast. Are the tax benefits really worth those extra costs?

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Jamal Carter

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You're right about the franchise taxes - they definitely cut into the benefits. In California it's $800 per LLC which is painful, but I'm in Tennessee where the annual fee is much lower ($300). For me, the math still works out when I consider both the tax advantages and the asset protection. I'm able to legitimately deduct more business expenses through the holding company structure, including a portion of travel related to property management, home office expenses, and administrative costs that were harder to claim as an individual investor.

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Mei Liu

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Has anyone looked into how the qualified business income deduction (Section 199A) works with holding companies? I've heard conflicting things - some say you lose the 20% deduction with certain holding company structures, others say you can actually maximize it. I'm currently making about $310k from my consulting business and I'm right at the phase-out threshold for the QBI deduction.

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Mateo Perez

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This is a great question about QBI and holding companies. The Section 199A deduction can be tricky with holding companies because certain structures might limit your ability to claim it. If your holding company is classified as a specified service trade or business (SSTB) and your income is above the threshold (which at $310k, yours is), you'll face limitations. However, a properly structured holding company might allow you to separate SSTB income from non-SSTB income, potentially preserving some of the QBI deduction.

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