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Aria Khan

(WA) Why am I getting double-taxed on unemployment benefits when I already opted for 10% withholding?

Hey tax folks, I'm just now sitting down to do my taxes and have what should be a straightforward question. I made about $47,000 in regular income for 2024 and had roughly $7,500 withheld for federal taxes. I normally make around $2700/week, but I only worked about 17-18 weeks last year due to my company's massive layoffs. Because of my withholding vs. actual income, I was initially looking at getting back about $4,100. While I was out of work, I collected unemployment benefits. My total unemployment compensation was $42,850 and I specifically elected to have federal taxes withheld at 10%, which meant about $4,285 was taken out for federal taxes from my unemployment checks. But here's the weird part - when I entered all my unemployment info into the tax software, my $4,100 refund suddenly dropped to just $450! I'm confused... if I already had 10% withheld from my unemployment benefits for federal taxes, why does it seem like the system is making me pay an ADDITIONAL 13% on that same money? Am I missing something here or is this just how unemployment is taxed?

Everett Tutum

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The 10% withholding on unemployment is just an estimate, not the final tax amount you'll actually owe. It works similar to how your employer withholds taxes from your regular paycheck, but unemployment often doesn't withhold enough. The issue you're facing is that when you combine your regular income with your unemployment income, your total income puts you in a higher tax bracket than what the 10% withholding covers. Unemployment is taxed as ordinary income, just like wages, but the standard 10% withholding rate is often less than what many people actually owe based on their total yearly income. Also, if you received unemployment in 2024, you don't benefit from the partial tax break that was available in 2020-2021 during COVID when the first $10,200 of unemployment was tax-free.

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Aria Khan

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That makes more sense now. So basically the 10% withholding option on unemployment is just a flat rate regardless of what tax bracket I might actually fall into when everything is combined? If I had known that, I probably would have set aside additional money. Is there anything I can do now to reduce this tax hit, or am I just stuck paying the difference?

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Everett Tutum

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Yes, exactly! The 10% withholding is just a standard flat rate option regardless of your actual tax bracket. When all your income sources are combined, you're being taxed based on your total income for the year. Unfortunately, at this point your options for reducing the 2024 tax bill are limited since the tax year is over. You might check if you qualify for any deductions or credits you haven't claimed yet. For example, if you paid for job search expenses, education to improve your skills, or had other deductible expenses, those might help reduce your taxable income.

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Sunny Wang

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How accurate is this service? I'm having a similar issue with my unemployment taxes being way higher than expected. Does it work if I've already started filing with TurboTax? I'm nervous about switching systems mid-filing.

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Sounds interesting but skeptical. Is it just analyzing what you already entered or does it actually find new deductions? I've tried "tax help" sites before that just repeated what I already knew.

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Sunny Wang

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The accuracy was surprisingly good. It found several deductions I missed, especially related to job transition expenses. I had spent money on certifications while unemployed that qualified as deductible job search expenses. You don't need to switch from TurboTax - you can use it alongside your current tax software to identify potential deductions or credits, then enter those into TurboTax yourself. It's more of an analysis tool that reviews your specific situation and documents. It goes beyond what you've already entered by asking targeted questions based on your specific situation. For me, it specifically looked at the pattern of W-2 income followed by unemployment and suggested deductions commonly missed in job transition situations. It's not just repeating information - it identified several hundred dollars in deductions I hadn't considered.

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Just wanted to follow up about that taxr.ai site. I was skeptical but tried it since I had the same unemployment tax surprise. It actually identified that I could deduct my home internet expenses during months I was doing job searching from home, plus some professional organization fees I paid while unemployed that I had no idea were deductible. Ended up saving about $640 on my taxes which offset a good chunk of that unexpected unemployment tax hit. The analysis explained exactly why the 10% withholding wasn't enough - in my case, combining my regular job income with unemployment pushed me into a higher bracket where my marginal rate was actually 22%.

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Melissa Lin

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Wait, how does this even work? The IRS phone system is notorious for disconnecting people. Are you saying this actually gets you through the phone tree and past the hold times?

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Romeo Quest

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Melissa Lin

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It works by using their system to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When an agent finally picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. Instead of you spending hours listening to hold music, their system does it for you. It's not magic - they're essentially waiting in the phone queue on your behalf. Think of it like hiring someone to stand in a physical line for you. You're right that it's something you could theoretically do yourself, but the value is in not having to waste hours of your time repeatedly calling and waiting on hold. For my unemployment tax questions, it saved me an entire afternoon of frustration.

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Romeo Quest

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. After struggling for 2 weeks trying to get through to the IRS about my unemployment tax situation, I tried the service. Got connected to an IRS rep in about 25 minutes. The agent explained that my 10% withholding wasn't enough because my combined income put me in the 22% tax bracket, and recommended I adjust my withholding on my current unemployment benefits to avoid the same problem next year. Saved me from taking another day off work just to sit on hold. Definitely worth it when you have specific questions about unemployment taxation that online resources don't clearly answer.

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Val Rossi

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This is a common misunderstanding with unemployment. The 10% withholding is just an option, not necessarily the correct amount for your tax situation. Here's a simple breakdown: Unemployment is 100% taxable income (except during certain COVID years which doesn't apply for 2024). When you add your regular income and unemployment together, your total income determines your tax bracket. If you earned $47,000 in regular income plus $42,850 in unemployment, your total income is $89,850, which likely puts you in the 22% tax bracket for at least part of your income. The 10% withholding from unemployment is significantly less than what you actually owe on that money.

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Eve Freeman

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Does this mean I should be withholding more than 10% from my current unemployment checks? The system only gives me option for 10% or nothing, no way to withhold 22% or whatever my actual bracket is.

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Val Rossi

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You're right that the unemployment system typically only allows for the 10% withholding option, which is frustrating. Since you can't increase the withholding percentage through the unemployment system, you have two main options: You can set aside additional money yourself with each unemployment payment - essentially creating your own additional withholding. For someone in the 22% bracket, you might want to save an extra 12% of each payment. Alternatively, you can make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS using Form 1040-ES. This allows you to send in additional tax payments throughout the year to cover the gap between the 10% being withheld and what you'll actually owe.

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Has anyone else noticed that the withholding calculator on the IRS website doesn't handle unemployment very well? I tried using it last year to figure out how much extra I should set aside from unemployment, and it gave me totally wrong numbers.

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Caden Turner

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I use the tax calculator on smartasset.com instead. It lets you input both regular income and unemployment separately and gives a pretty accurate estimate of what you'll actually owe. Way better than the IRS one for people with mixed income sources.

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