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Kiara Greene

(WA) Why am I getting double-taxed on unemployment benefits after already withholding 10%?

Hey folks, I'm finally sitting down to do my taxes and have what should be a straightforward question. I made around $47,000 in 2024 and paid approximately $7,500 in federal income taxes. My normal income is about $2700/week, but I only worked roughly 17-18 weeks last year due to some unforeseen circumstances. Because of this limited work period, I was supposed to get back about $4,000 in federal refunds. During my time off work, I collected unemployment benefits. My total unemployment income came to $49,440 and I elected to have federal income tax withheld at 10%, which meant about $4,944 was withheld from my unemployment payments throughout the year. Here's where I'm confused - when I entered my unemployment information into the tax software, it immediately changed my expected $4,000 refund to just $400! So my question is: If I'm already withholding 10% for federal taxes from my unemployment income, why does the system want me to pay an additional 13% on top of that? Feels like I'm getting taxed twice on the same money.

Evelyn Kelly

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The 10% withholding on unemployment benefits is just an estimate, not necessarily the actual tax amount you'll owe. Unemployment compensation is considered taxable income and gets added to your other income when calculating your total tax liability. When you add your regular income ($47,000) plus your unemployment income ($49,440), your total taxable income becomes much higher ($96,440), which likely pushes you into a higher tax bracket. The 10% withholding on unemployment might be insufficient for your actual tax rate at that combined income level. Think of withholding like making estimated payments - it's not the final tax calculation. The tax software is calculating what you actually owe based on your total income from all sources, then subtracting what you've already paid through withholding.

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Kiara Greene

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That makes sense, but it seems like such a drastic change in what I'm getting back. So basically, the 10% withholding option for unemployment is misleading since it's not enough to cover what I'll actually owe?

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Evelyn Kelly

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Yes, the standard 10% withholding option for unemployment often isn't enough to cover the actual tax liability, especially if you have other income during the year. It's a flat percentage that doesn't account for your total income situation or tax bracket. When you combine all your income sources, your effective tax rate is likely higher than 10%. The unemployment system doesn't know about your other income when calculating that 10% withholding, so it can't perfectly estimate what you'll actually owe when everything is combined at tax time. For future reference, if you find yourself on unemployment again, you might want to consider having additional taxes withheld or making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid this surprise at tax time.

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Paloma Clark

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Heather Tyson

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Raul Neal

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Does it work if you have income from multiple states? I worked in Oregon for half the year, then got laid off and collected unemployment in Washington while doing gig work in both states. My tax situation is a nightmare and I'm wondering if this could actually help.

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Paloma Clark

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Sasha Reese

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Adding to this conversation - unemployment tax withholding is definitely confusing! A big thing to remember is that unemployment compensation stacks on top of your regular income. So if you were already making $47k from your job, then adding another $49k from unemployment pushes your total income to $96k, which is well into the 24% federal tax bracket for 2024. The 10% withholding option is just a standard flat rate - it doesn't take into account your other income or your actual tax bracket. That's why you're seeing such a big difference in your expected refund.

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Noland Curtis

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Is there any way to change the withholding percentage on unemployment? Like could I ask them to withhold 20% instead of 10% to avoid this problem next time?

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Unfortunately, the unemployment system typically only offers the standard 10% withholding option - you can't adjust it to a higher percentage even if you want to. If you need to have more withheld, you have two main options: make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS to cover the difference, or if you have a spouse who's working, they could increase their withholding on their W-4 to help cover the additional tax liability from your unemployment income.

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Diez Ellis

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Just wanna share my experience - I had this EXACT same problem in Washington state last year!! That 10% withholding is such a trap. I thought I was being responsible by choosing to have taxes withheld from my unemployment but still ended up owing a ton. The real issue is that unemployment doesn't take into account your total annual income situation. For me, I had worked half the year making good money before being laid off, so combined with unemployment I was in a higher tax bracket than what the 10% covered. For anyone else facing this - consider setting aside some additional money beyond the 10% withholding if you can afford it. Better to have extra saved than to owe a bunch at tax time.

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Would it help to just decline the 10% withholding altogether and instead put 20% of each payment into a savings account, then use that to pay taxes at the end of the year? Seems like it would be better to have control of the money in the meantime.

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