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Callum Savage

Why did my income increase by $10K but they took out less in taxes this year?

I'm totally confused about my tax withholding this year and hoping someone can explain what's happening. Last year my gross income was $58,000 and my state withholding was $6,412. This year I actually made about $12k more, so around $70,000, but they somehow took OUT LESS in taxes ($6,310)! My tax refund is usually around $1,600-1,900 but this year it's saying I'm only getting back $385. I didn't change anything on my tax forms - I always have them take out the maximum amount because I prefer getting a refund rather than owing. So I'm completely confused why they would take out less if I made more money? I mean, I'm grateful to be getting any refund at all, but I've kind of been counting on getting at least $1,600 every year and now I'm trying to figure out what happened. Did tax laws change? Did my employer mess something up? Am I completely misunderstanding how withholding works? Any insights would be really appreciated!

Ally Tailer

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What you're experiencing is actually pretty common and there could be a few reasons for this. Tax withholding isn't just based on how much you make - it's based on a combination of your income, filing status, and the current withholding tables that employers use. The IRS adjusted the withholding tables in recent years, which might explain why less was withheld despite your higher income. Additionally, if your income increased throughout the year (maybe you got a raise halfway through?), the withholding calculations might not have caught up properly. Another possibility is that you hit a different tax bracket with your increased income, which changed how your taxes were calculated overall. The higher your income, the more precise your withholding needs to be to get that big refund you're used to. If you want to increase your refund for next year, you might want to fill out a new W-4 form and either increase your withholding or add a specific additional amount to be withheld from each paycheck.

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Callum Savage

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Thanks for the detailed response! I did actually get a promotion in August that came with a decent raise. Would that really have that much impact though? And is there any way to fix it for this year's taxes or am I just stuck with the smaller refund?

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Ally Tailer

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Yes, a midyear promotion can definitely impact your withholding calculations! When your income suddenly increases, the payroll system calculates withholding as if you'd been making that higher amount all year, which can lead to underwithholding for your actual annual total. Unfortunately, you can't change withholding for taxes you've already filed. The best approach is to adjust for next year by submitting a new W-4 to your employer. You can either select fewer allowances or specify an additional dollar amount to withhold from each paycheck. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator tool on their website that can help you figure out the right amount.

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Malia Ponder

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Similar thing happened to me! Turned out that even though I made more money, I had accidentally switched from "single" to "married filing jointly" on my W-4 when I updated my address after moving. My HR person pointed it out when I asked why my withholding seemed low compared to previous years. Worth checking if anything like that changed on your W-4 without you realizing it.

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Kyle Wallace

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How do you even check what's on your current W-4? Do you have to ask HR or is there somewhere you can see it yourself?

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Malia Ponder

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Most companies have an employee portal or HR system where you can view your current tax withholding settings. Look for something like "Tax Withholding" or "W-4 Information" in your employee portal. If you can't find it there, you'll need to ask your HR or payroll department for a copy of your current W-4 on file. Some companies also include your withholding status on your paystub, which might say something like "Single-0" or "Married-2" indicating your filing status and allowances. Though with the newer W-4 forms, they've moved away from allowances to more specific withholding calculations.

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Ryder Ross

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did the exact same thing happen to your federal withholding too? or just state? because different states have different withholding rules that don't always match the federal changes

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Not the OP but this happened to me too - both federal and state withholding were less even though I made more. In my case it was because my state (Pennsylvania) adjusted their withholding tables but didn't publicize it very well, so a lot of people got surprised at tax time.

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